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		<title>Daizenshuu EX Plagiarism Redux</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Aug 2010 13:41:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>VegettoEX</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[(I initially wrote much of this article back in March 2010, but held off on publishing it due to never receiving permission to re-publish an e-mail. I have decided to just go ahead with it. It helps set things in context, and is a great lead-in to some extra commentary based on some recent forum [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>(I initially wrote much of this article back in March 2010, but held off on publishing it due to never receiving permission to re-publish an e-mail. I have decided to just go ahead with it. It helps set things in context, and is a great lead-in to some extra commentary based on some recent forum posts.)</em></p>
<p>We have shared stories like this before, where another website simply <a href="http://www.vegettoex.com/blog/2009/11/10/pojo-blatantly-steals-daizenshuu-ex-article/" target="_self"><strong>lifted the entire content of a major Daizenshuu EX feature</strong></a> (including hot-linked images and all). It is the Internet &#8212; we expect this on a daily basis. In fact, the darn thing even works in the first place because content is re-purposed and shared. Information wants to be free, right?</p>
<p>This was an interesting one, though. It is not as black-and-white as the example linked above. In fact, one could argue that <a href="http://www.daizex.com" target="_blank"><strong>Daizenshuu EX</strong></a> is the one at fault for not taking advantage of the different mediums and outlets. All of these different ways to communicate and get the message out are <em>right there</em>, so why not use them?</p>
<p>Let me explain.</p>
<p>Back in February I received an e-mail from a regular visitor who was concerned. I have removed some identifying information about the visitor from the e-mail below, as well as named-references to the source he is referring to (though I will ultimately &#8220;out&#8221; them later in the article):</p>
<blockquote><p>I am one of your many fans who uses your website Daizenshuu EX (along with Kanzentai) to get news on what is occurring in the Dragon World. I am also a podcast listener. Since I support your work, I feel the need to at least inform you of a certain individual who is plagiarizing your work on YouTube and becoming popular for it (and of course, no credit is given to Daizex). You may already know and not care, but just in case you do care about someone stealing your information almost word-for-word and being credited and praised for it, I&#8217;ll give you the info.</p>
<p>It is a YouTuber named &#8220;<strong>(name redacted)</strong>&#8220;. I believe he is a member of your forums going under the guise of another username, but I cannot say anything in this regard because I have no proof. He is known for his DBZ news and has rapidly grown to have almost 2,000 subscribers, which is a lot of people who use him for DBZ news, and a lot of people who should be getting it from your site. <strong>(URL redacted)</strong></p>
<p>Now, if you watch a lot of his videos you will notice that they are complete rip-offs of your website updates. Take for example, <strong>(URL redacted)</strong> . If you watch this, you will notice that it&#8217;s just an almost copy &amp; paste of all the info from your website that you posted a few days ago.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, MY BEST PROOF he has deleted because I actually posted a comment on the video talking about it and he removed the video before I could write this email. It was a video copying your &#8220;Additional FUNimation Cast Changes&#8221; post, BUT, one thing that I noticed is that he misinterpreted the words YOU wrote: &#8220;As a minor aside, it is fascinating to be simultaneous talking about voice recastings for both the Japanese and English side of the franchise. It feels like conversations from ten years ago (the shift from Ocean Studios to an in-house FUNimation cast) have resurfaced in a tiny way!&#8221;</p>
<p>He thought you were talking about a possible UK release for the DBZKai series and made a video saying that, copying the text I have displayed to you in this email and talking about it. Then, when I told him he was ripping-off Daizex and also that he got the info you wrote wrong, he deleted it. His latest video (as of 3:40 PM EST Feb 16th) <strong>(URL redacted)</strong> is the only proof I have that I am telling the truth. If you watch this video, he even admits his misinterpretation and that he did make a video.</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t even report this to you if he was a nobody, but he is very popular; his videos have thousands of views and as mentioned earlier he almost has 2000 subscribers. And you will find no credit to Daizex ANYWHERE on his channel. I personally do not believe it is fair for you to put a lot of effort in informing and entertaining the Dragon Ball fanbase for &#8220;<strong>(name redacted)</strong>&#8221; to take advantage of it and become popular.</p></blockquote>
<p>The first thing I did as I watched some of the videos was chuckle and take cheap shots at all of the mis-spellings. I suppose admitting I did such right here in the blog post is an extension of that cheap shot, but hey&#8230; did you expect anything less from me?</p>
<p>It is quite the interesting situation. Sure enough, if you watch the videos, they are essentially date-for-date and word-for-word reprises of the news updates over on <strong>Daizenshuu EX</strong>.</p>
<p>The big question to ask is &#8212; <em>what&#8217;s wrong with that?</em></p>
<p>Earlier in the post I noted it may be our own damn fault for not taking advantage of the medium &#8212; if the <em>audience</em> is on YouTube, why are we not <em>there</em> to take advantage of them and provide them with valuable content in their home territory? Shame on us. People expect the news to be pushed <em>to them</em> wherever <em>they</em> are most comfortable.</p>
<p><em>(The answer is that I can barely find the time these days to do all it is that I already do, never mind produce video features of each news post!)</em></p>
<p>In the <a href="http://www.vegettoex.com/blog/2009/11/10/pojo-blatantly-steals-daizenshuu-ex-article/" target="_self"><strong>prior post</strong></a> about the website feature, I noted how you could spin it in a positive way &#8212; people were discovering content (and in this case, news) that they otherwise would never have encountered (OK, maybe they <em>eventually</em> would have&#8230;). They were reading my words and my feelings. More people than before were doing so. In at least an indirect way, <strong>Daizenshuu EX</strong> was being imprinted upon the masses! How is that <em>not</em> a plus&#8230;?!</p>
<p>You can look at it from the protective side, though, as our e-mail author clearly did&#8230; <em>and they&#8217;re not even the ones making the darn website updates that are being &#8220;stolen&#8221;</em> (that our visitors feel so protective and full of honor for the site gives me a feeling resembling joy I think). There is a somewhat &#8220;creepy&#8221; feeling having your words regurgitated back at you with no attribution. It is pretty disingenuous of this YouTube user to go making update after update, video after video, and never citing their source. That&#8217;s just lazy, if not completely amateurish. Don&#8217;t they think something is a little weird about that? Lifting so much content and not saying where they first learned about it?</p>
<p>It got more interesting just this week when a completely separate fan posted up <a href="http://daizex.fanboyreview.net/viewtopic.php?f=7&amp;t=14251" target="_blank"><strong>a thread on our message board about it</strong></a>. Apparently this content-lifting-individual (or is it a group?) is no longer happy to just copy-and-paste updates into YouTube videos, and instead are running a larger, more traditional website. This is when I start scratching my head a little more. I am not sure how I feel about it.</p>
<p>It is at this point that I do not particularly care sharing the identity of these folks. It is definitely worth it to really showcase the extent they are going to.</p>
<p>You have an update of theirs <a href="http://www.saiyanteam.com/2010/08/08/plan-to-eradicate-the-saiyans-in-raging-blast-2/" target="_blank"><strong>like this one</strong></a> announcing the inclusion of <em>Plan to Eradicate the Super Saiyans</em> in <em>Raging Blast 2</em>. The translation of the scan is verbatim copied-and-pasted <a href="http://www.kanzentai.com/index.php?subaction=showcomments&amp;id=1281211310&amp;archive=&amp;start_from=&amp;ucat=&amp;" target="_blank"><strong>from Kanzentai</strong></a>, while the image the bottom (with our standard blue border and drop shadow) is ours <a href="http://www.daizex.com/#szk_remake" target="_blank"><strong>from Daizenshuu EX</strong></a> &#8212; they could have clicked through to the source link (which I provided) and grabbed the original, full-sized image instead of using my tiny, formatted one. Only the former object is credited&#8230; and to be honest, I did not even see that credit at first. The <em>news</em> is not our own, but certainly the <em>translation</em> of it is, and to a much lesser extent, the formatting on the image is&#8230; well, that&#8217;s something.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-1127" title="saiyan_team_content_leech" src="http://www.vegettoex.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/saiyan_team_content_leech.jpg" alt="" width="461" height="497" /></p>
<p>Head on over to <a href="http://www.saiyanteam.com/2010/08/21/ten-new-plan-to-eradicate-the-super-saiyans-animation-screens/" target="_blank"><strong>this update of theirs</strong></a> with a gallery of ten animation shots from <em>Plan to Eradicate the Super Saiyans</em>. To be fair, these ten shots were released by Namco-Bandai to their press partners (of which <strong>Daizenshuu EX</strong> is one) for free distribution and promotion. Take a look at the file names this group used, though: <strong>assets_20100821_animation_10.jpg</strong>, and so on. Head on over to <a href="http://www.daizex.com/general/tidbits/eradicate.shtml" target="_blank"><strong>the respective &#8220;Tidbit&#8221; page on Daizenshuu EX</strong></a>, and without looking, take a wild guess at what file naming standard I re-named them all with before posting.</p>
<p>I will let you in on one of our big, dark, pompous, egotistical, hilarious secrets &#8212; we absolutely <em>love it</em> when people, especially begrudgingly, have to visit <strong>Daizenshuu EX</strong> and <strong>Kanzentai</strong> for news. OK, it is not actually as mean in my head as it sounds when it gets written out like that. The truth of the matter is, both Heath and I (as well as our cohorts!) work incredibly hard to keep up-to-date with the news. We have our regular sources. We have our regular searches. We have worked our way into a position where sometimes news finds <em>us</em>. Honestly, unless you are another <em>DragonBall</em> fansite that has been around at least as long as <strong>Kanzentai</strong> (never mind <strong>Daizenshuu EX</strong>) and have the clout to leverage your position, you are ultimately stuck in a endless game of catch-up with us. That is not to say that someone could not come along in a couple years and upset the balance of &#8220;power&#8221; (for lack of a better phrase), but for the time being&#8230; we are it. If you want to know (in English) what is going on with the franchise, you either come to us, or indirectly find out from us via some other source.</p>
<p>Another source like this &#8220;Saiyan Team&#8221;.</p>
<p><em>(There is something to be said for news of a different &#8220;type&#8221;, though. There are other awesome sites out there like </em><a href="http://dragonballbenelux.blogspot.com/" target="_blank"><strong>DragonNews</strong></a> <em>who cover more fandom-related things than we do, and with an international twist. At the end of the day, though, with the franchise being of Japanese origin, any significant &#8220;news&#8221; comes out of Japan &#8212; and since we focus on the Japanese version of the franchise, well, guess where the majority of the news is being broken&#8230;?)</em></p>
<p>So what is the deal here? Are we just too protective of our own second-hand-generated content? I mean, it&#8217;s not like <em>we</em> were the ones who announced such-and-such product. We have broken some exclusive news before, but we certainly do not do it on a daily basis.</p>
<p>Maybe they are just some punk 16-year-old kid first getting into this whole &#8220;content creation&#8221; thing online. I know I sure had no idea what the accepted rules of society were when I first got into this back in 1998.</p>
<p>What I find most fascinating about the whole ordeal is that example where they <em>removed a video</em> after being called out on completely misinterpreting (some pretty clearly written) words in a news post. They back-peddled on the whole situation. They admitted fault in doing so. Any normal person, at that point, would probably sit back and re-evaluate what the heck they are doing. Yet here we are half a year later, and now their website updates are simply being copied word-for-word.</p>
<p>So I am opening up the discussion. What do you all think about this? Is there anything wrong with what this YouTube user is doing, taking advantage of an open space that we do not have the time to jump into? Quite clearly this is a very self-selected audience that is almost guaranteed to support me, but I definitely would not be opposed to some differing thoughts&#8230; because, honestly, I am not entirely sure how <em>I even feel</em> about it.</p>
<p>Hell, for all I know, the person responsible for the videos and site is reading this blog. It is not so far-fetched. All I ask is that, when you run to the comments, you keep it civil and intelligent. I wouldn&#8217;t expect anything less of you all, but I suppose I just feel the need to say that, anyway!</p>
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		<title>The Jokes Lives On: VegettoEX is Appule</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Aug 2010 20:02:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>VegettoEX</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Many of you predicted it. With the release of Episode 17 of DBZ Abridged, the cat is completely out of the bag: I voiced Appule. I don&#8217;t even remember when it was that KaiserNeko and I first started talking about it &#8212; it was that long ago. It was something I was looking forward to [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many of you predicted it. With the release of Episode 17 of <strong>DBZ Abridged</strong>, the cat is completely out of the bag:</p>
<p>I voiced <a href="http://www.vegettoex.com/blog/2010/05/27/behind-the-joke-appule/"><strong>Appule</strong></a>.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><object classid="clsid:d27cdb6e-ae6d-11cf-96b8-444553540000" width="480" height="385" codebase="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=6,0,40,0"><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true" /><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always" /><param name="src" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/VxoT3A4qgRo?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US" /><param name="allowfullscreen" value="true" /><embed type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="480" height="385" src="http://www.youtube.com/v/VxoT3A4qgRo?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true"></embed></object></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t even remember when it was that <strong>KaiserNeko</strong> and I first started talking about it &#8212; it was that long ago. It was something I was looking forward to for the longest time, and I got such an amazing kick out of doing it.</p>
<p>Despite my incessant commentary on the voice acting of various languages, I have very little personal experience (hey, few film critics have ever made a film!). I recorded a couple quick lines for <strong>This is Otakudom</strong> back in 2001, and stepped up to play a somewhat major character (&#8220;Chow Down Fast&#8221;) for <strong>S.T.E.A.M.</strong> in 2005. Both were directed by Scott Melzer, and everything was in-person at his house. It was very similar to how professional voice acting seems to be done in the US, with a director and single actor doing their lines at a time (though we typically had at least one other person in the room). We would do multiple takes, occasionally play the scene in real time while acting it out, etc. I did another couple quick lines for Scott&#8217;s next parody, but I will not be involved with it in any other way.</p>
<p>It was a bit different for <strong>Abridged</strong>. As we have discussed via interviews with <a href="http://www.tfsabridged.com" target="_blank"><strong>TeamFourStar</strong></a> over on the <a href="http://www.daizex.com" target="_blank"><strong>Daizenshuu EX</strong></a> podcast, most (if not all) of their acting sessions these days are done live over Skype (with the actor locally recording their lines). This is exactly how I went about recording with my lovely director, <strong>KaiserNeko</strong>. I received the script ahead of time and picked out one line to do several different test &#8220;voices&#8221; with. I recorded the same line over a few times in these different voices, sent them off for review, and came back together again to finalize the tone of the character with a complete script. It was difficult to get a read on the man in terms of my performances &#8212; I couldn&#8217;t really tell if he was simply accepting mediocre work just to get it done, or if I actually pulled what he wanted out of my rear-end. That&#8217;s why he&#8217;s the &#8220;pro&#8221;, though&#8230; he just goes with it and keeps on truckin&#8217; until he gets what he wants!</p>
<p>Interesting tidbit, though: I had to re-record two lines because of a wrong name in the script. In the <strong>TeamFourStar</strong> dub of the Bardock TV special, the Appule-esque minion killed by Bardock is named &#8220;Eachpe&#8221; (a play on &#8220;Peach&#8221;). Written in the script for my episode was &#8220;Pierre&#8221; (another minion from the Bardock TV special, a play on &#8220;Pear&#8221;). It was not until the final mixing stage that the error was realized! During the retakes, we kept going on and on trying to get an appropriate performance out of me for Appule&#8217;s final line, &#8220;<em>Here I come, Eachpe</em>&#8230;&#8221; For whatever reason, I simply could not hit that range with the character&#8217;s voice. <strong>KaiserNeko</strong> ended up taking a different approach with advice on other lines and attitudes to take to reach the point of emotion where Appule might end up saying that line &#8212; we ended up with some pretty ridiculous stuff spouting out of my mouth, but I ended out muttering out the take that was used in the final episode, so it was very much worth it!</p>
<p>I thought I did a pretty decent job. In particular, I think my delivery on Appule&#8217;s response to Zarbon asking why Vegeta was not nude in the tank was pretty dead-on. Overall, though? It&#8217;s up to you to decide. Hopefully it was a fun little cameo that you enjoyed. If you didn&#8217;t like it, though, don&#8217;t tell me. My poor ego couldn&#8217;t deal with it. Just go post about it anonymously on some other message board, preferably with a link back to <strong>Daizenshuu EX</strong> so I <em>will</em> end up finding it and ultimately drown my sorrow in alcohol.</p>
<p>By the way, one of my favorite gags in the episode is this:</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-1105" title="abridged_17_freeza_joke" src="http://www.vegettoex.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/abridged_17_freeza_joke.jpg" alt="" width="400" height="300" /></p>
<p><a href="http://www.vegettoex.com/blog/2009/12/16/why-the-frieza-spelling-drives-me-nuts/"><strong>Ooooooooh yeah</strong></a>!</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 15:34:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>VegettoEX</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I recently archived some of my earliest online endeavors. Some of them are filed away under lock so none of you will ever have a chance to see them. Some, like what I am about to share, are too cute to hold back. It is occasionally a good thing to look back at where you [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently archived some of my earliest online endeavors. Some of them are filed away under lock so none of you will ever have a chance to see them. Some, like what I am about to share, are too cute to hold back. It is occasionally a good thing to look back at where you came from, figure out how much you have grown, and where to go from there.</p>
<p>When FUNimation (in conjunction with Pioneer) was releasing the first three <strong>DragonBall Z</strong> movies state-side back in 1997-1998, I was just beginning my website and writing quick reviews of the releases. Here is what my 15/16-year-old self wrote about &#8220;<strong>The Tree of Might</strong>&#8221; (DBZ movie 3), and specifically the uncut home release of its dub, back in 1998:</p>
<blockquote><p>DragonBall Z Movie # 3:  The Tree Of Might</p>
<p>Was I ever surprised with this one!!  This IS NOT, I repeat, <strong>IS NOT</strong> the same &#8220;Tree of Might&#8221; that was shown on television.  It has been completely re-dubbed, and it is SOOO much better.  No more of that, &#8220;jerk&#8221; crap.  Instead of Taurus (yeah, it&#8217;s still &#8220;Turles&#8221; in the dub,  folks) saying to Piccolo, &#8220;And just who are you?&#8221; he now says, in a tone that suggests he is quite unimpressed with Piccolo, &#8220;Who the Hell are you?&#8221;  Just great!!  While the signature move names (for the most part) have still been changed (&#8220;Kienzan&#8221; &#8211; &#8220;Destructo Disc&#8221;&#8230;. &#8220;Taiyo-Ken&#8221; &#8211; &#8220;Solar Flare&#8221;&#8230;.. &#8220;Genki-Dama&#8221; &#8211; &#8220;Spirit Bomb&#8221;&#8230; etc.), I must say, it was nice to hear Gokou (uh&#8230; whoops&#8230; it&#8217;s &#8220;Goku&#8221; in the dub, still) say &#8220;Kaio-Ken&#8221; the correct way!!  No longer is it being pronounced &#8220;Kayo-Ken&#8221;&#8230; we now get the true, wonderful, &#8220;Kaio-Ken!!!&#8221;&#8230;. I love it.  The new voice actors actually didn&#8217;t get on my nerves!!  Goku kept it pretty good, Oolong&#8217;s new one sucks like Hell, Roshi seems to have about three different people doing his voice, and&#8230;.. uh&#8230;.. Higher Dragon (yes, no more of that &#8220;Icarus&#8221; crap!! We get an actual translation of &#8220;Heiya Dragon&#8221;) must have had his Japanese &#8220;voice,&#8221; because it wasn&#8217;t half as annoying as it was as the TV version.  The gay-ass one liners have all been taken out, and I&#8217;m pretty sure they&#8217;ve stuck to the original Japanese script (from what I&#8217;ve read of the translated Movie # 3 script, so far).  I&#8217;m still in shock at the new queer names for some of the moves, though&#8230; no more &#8220;Kamayamaya&#8221; for &#8220;Masenko,&#8221; but now it&#8217;s called &#8220;Power Beam!&#8221;  &#8220;Souki-Dan&#8221; was &#8220;Here&#8217;s a power shot!&#8221;  Oh well&#8230; can&#8217;t have everything you want (actually, you can&#8230;. buy the sub-titled version!)  This movie is a whole hour long (15 minutes longer than # 1).  It&#8217;s a great hour, though.  There&#8217;s a ton of scenes in the Movie here that weren&#8217;t shown on TV, which made it all the more enjoyable.  The original Japanese soundtrack was also left intact in this movie, from &#8220;Cha La Head Cha La&#8221; to the ending song (who&#8217;s name I can&#8217;t remember&#8230; I&#8217;ll put it in when I watch the movie again).  This is just another example that says the guys behind the dub CAN pull something off that is somewhat worthy of Toriyama&#8217;s name.  Once again, I commend them.  Now, if we could only get this &#8220;Masenko,&#8221; Taiyo-Ken,&#8221; &#8220;Kienzan,&#8221; &#8220;Souki-Dan,&#8221; and &#8220;Genki-Dama&#8221; stuff right&#8230;..</p>
<p>Contrary to earlier reoprts, &#8220;The Tree of Might&#8221; is already available, on Dubbed VHS, sub-titled VHS, sub/dub Laser Disc, as well as sub/dub DVD.  Pick up a copy!!</p>
<p>SCORE &#8212;- 5.5 out of 7 DragonBalls</p></blockquote>
<p>It is horribly embarrassing. To be fair, I was 16 years old &#8212; random cursing and slurs was awesome, and knowing any amount of Japanese (never mind character name pun origins) at that time was equivalent to being King of the Moon. I insisted upon spelling the main character&#8217;s name as &#8220;Gokou&#8221; (something I have done a complete 180 on) simply because it was &#8220;different&#8221; from what &#8220;THE MAN&#8221; told me it was. I used a numerical grading scale, something I would never imagine doing these days. I somehow managed to use more ellipses than I even do today. I used the wrong &#8220;whose&#8221;.</p>
<p>You can probably imagine me bashing my head against the wall right now.</p>
<p>At the same time, it is interesting to see some of the things I have not compromised on. I still have a huge problem with mispronunciations. I still have a huge problem with replacement musical scores. I still have a huge problem with revised scripts. Amusingly, these things all affect me far less due to the widespread availability of the shows in their original Japanese format &#8212; as you have come to hear me explain time and time again, an English dub these days is irrelevant to me (up through the point of it affecting greater conversations and information accuracy widespread-ness).</p>
<p>I think this is why I have more patience for kids on <a href="http://www.daizex.com/interaction/board/" target="_blank"><strong>our forum</strong></a> over on <strong>Daizenshuu EX</strong> than a lot of you wish I had. I know that some of them just need a path and a guide. VegettoEX of 1998 was just a punk-kid with delusions of grandeur. He kept working at it, though, until those delusions were at least halfway real&#8230;!</p>
<p>Now you have to suffer with me <a href="http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=618507&amp;page=13" target="_blank"><strong>whether you like it or not</strong></a>&#8230; which is just the way I like it.</p>
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		<title>Otakon 2010&#8242;s Yûji Mitsuya Panel of Awesomeness</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Aug 2010 01:39:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>VegettoEX</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are plenty of stories to share about this year&#8217;s Otakon, and rest assured that many more will make their way to either this blog or our podcast over on Daizenshuu EX. One story in particular is a combination of news and hilarity (and has pictures to go along with it!) so you can imagine [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are plenty of stories to share about this year&#8217;s <a href="http://www.otakon.com" target="_blank"><strong>Otakon</strong></a>, and rest assured that many more will make their way to either this blog or our podcast over on <a href="http://www.daizex.com" target="_blank"><strong>Daizenshuu EX</strong></a>. One story in particular is a combination of news and hilarity (and has pictures to go along with it!) so you can imagine that I could not wait to share it with everyone.</p>
<p>Saturday afternoon at 1:30 pm, veteran voice actor and director <strong>Yûji Mitsuya</strong> was holding a second Q&amp;A panel. We had missed out on his panel Friday afternoon due to conflicting events, but made sure to be open for Saturday&#8217;s panel. Mitsuya is perhaps best known to <strong>DragonBall</strong> fans as the voice of <strong>Kaiôshin</strong> in <strong>DragonBall Z</strong>, so while he is not necessarily in the same &#8220;importance&#8221; league as, say, someone like <strong>Toshio Furukawa</strong> or <strong>Mayumi Tanaka</strong> (both of whom are somehow tied to him in one way or another&#8230;!), he is no stranger to our extended anime fandom.</p>
<p>While it could be the subject of an entire blog post in-and-of-itself, and while it certainly is never a surprise to me, it continues to be an extreme disappointment to see how few people turn out for Japanese guests at anime conventions these days. Whether it is a lead animator, the creator of a series, a notable voice actor&#8230; it does not seem to matter. If they are not the hot English voice actor of the moment (hey, remember when Richard Ian Cox was the big shit for, like, a year?)&#8230; no-one comes to see them. It is incredibly sad when you take a step back and realize that we are all coming together to celebrate <em>Japanese</em> animation and culture (debatably, anyway; there is an argument for it all just being general nerd-culture-celebration loosely focused around anime).</p>
<p>But I digress.</p>
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<p>Despite the ridiculously low attendance to the panel, Mitsuya charged forward like a champion with all sorts of stories. We heard about drunken <em>sempai</em> lessons and advice, learned how he formed a quasi-male-idol band with <strong>Toshio Furukawa</strong> (Piccolo) in the past, forming a theater group with <strong>Mayumi Tanaka</strong> (Kuririn, Yajirobe), and much later on after moving around so many times (keep reading!), ghost-directing the cast of <strong>Rurouni Kenshin</strong> for three months before deciding to allow himself to be credited and specifically choosing and mentoring <strong>Mayo Suzukaze</strong> for the lead character&#8217;s role based on her own theater performance. The man was just full of astonishing stories and genuine humility.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2010-07-31/otakon-convention-center-evacuated-due-to-fire-alarm" target="_blank"><strong>Then the fire alarm got pulled</strong></a>.</p>
<p>Translator <strong>Toshiyumi Yoshida</strong> first asked if we should all just stick around and continue, but Otakon staff insisted that we all must leave as the entire building had to be evacuated. In an amazing showcase of professionalism, Mitsuya suggested we all come along with him to the outside plaza there on the third floor and he would gladly continue telling stories and taking questions. So&#8230; the dozen or so of us followed him along and continued listening!</p>
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<p>As we got going into the next story, Otakon staff insisted that we had to evacuate all convention center-related areas, including this outside area. Mitsuya was far from done, and insisted we all continue on with him! We traveled down an escalator, down some flights of stairs, and ended up alongside a wall outside of the convention center. Just as we started up <em>again</em>, Otakon staff yet again insisted that we continue onward away from the convention center.</p>
<p>Mitsuya was unphased. Much to the surprise of Yoshida, the entire group plugged onward with him and Mitsuya inside the nearby Sheraton hotel. We plopped in a corner and continued onward with the stories and questions! Mitsuya explained how he ran into Nathan Lane (the voice of &#8220;Timon&#8221; in Disney&#8217;s <strong>The Lion King</strong>) in New York and screamed &#8220;<em>I am Japanese Timon! I am Japanese Timon!</em>&#8221; into the frightened actor&#8217;s face. Unprovoked, he would burst into his characters&#8217; voices and lines to describe his excitement over the roles and love of his fellow actors.</p>
<p>I managed to get in the last question he had time for. It was still quite a ways off, but did he know if he would be returning to voice <strong>Kaiôshin</strong> in <strong>DragonBall Kai</strong>&#8230;? The answer that we received confirmed quite a bit about the show&#8217;s production.</p>
<p>Mitsuya knew exactly what we were talking about, and admitted that he was not yet sure, himself. Being a director more than a voice actor, he is friends with the director of <strong>DragonBall Kai</strong> and has already expressed his desire to return to the role. What he told us next spoke volumes in very few words &#8212; he was unsure if they would be able to afford him, and if the series would even make it that far. He even slyly mumbled that he would be willing to take the job at a reduced rate!</p>
<p>With the entirety of Ginyu-<em>Tokusentai</em> being replaced with new voice actors (including <strong>Kenji Utsumi</strong> as Recoom, despite him returning to the show to voice <strong>Shenlong</strong>), along with plenty of other voice actors that have become much bigger in the industry since their roles in <strong>DragonBall</strong>, it has really made us wonder just how expensive <strong>DragonBall Kai</strong> actually is to produce, despite us always describing it as &#8220;cheap&#8221; and &#8220;a money-grab&#8221; and &#8220;half-assed&#8221; in almost every way. <a href="http://www.kanzentai.com" target="_blank"><strong>Hujio</strong></a> and I later discussed how it seems that these days we get confirmations of actors returning either very close to their first appearance in the series&#8230; or not at all. Many times it will not even come from the official site for the series, and instead from the actors themselves or their fan communities (such as the case with #17).</p>
<p>Branching off of that, we could not help but speculate further. Was the licensing of <strong>Kai</strong> to FUNimation for American distribution a way to raise quick capital to fund the further production of the series? When it was first announced, it was clear that the series would go through at least the Freeza arc, since the villain was clearly shown on all production materials. The fact that it would be moving onward into the next story arc with Cell was a very casual &#8220;announcement&#8221;.</p>
<p>At the end of the day, this set of rambling paragraphs is less about <strong>DragonBall</strong> and more about how great of a time we had with Mitsuya. His courtesy and enthusiasm is unparalleled, showcased by his desire for a group photo with everyone at the end of the &#8220;panel&#8221;:</p>
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<p>What a freakin&#8217; great time&#8230;!</p>
<p><em>(Thanks to <a href="http://www.kanzentai.com" target="_blank"><strong>Hujio</strong></a> and&#8230; oh hey, myself!&#8230; for the photos <img src='http://www.vegettoex.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> )</em></p>
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		<title>Say It This Way &#8216;Cuz I Said So</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2010 13:57:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>VegettoEX</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I won&#8217;t lie. I sometimes lurk around other forums. There are only a couple I regularly keep up with (my own, the FUNimation DB forum section)&#8230; but there are a couple others I have bookmarked that I check in on every couple of weeks. I feel somewhat of a responsibility to keep up with what [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I won&#8217;t lie. I sometimes lurk around other forums. There are only a couple I regularly keep up with (<a href="http://www.daizex.com/interaction/board/" target="_blank"><strong>my own</strong></a>, <strong><a href="http://community.funimation.com/tt.aspx?forumid=17" target="_blank">the FUNimation DB forum section</a></strong>)&#8230; but there are a couple others I have bookmarked that I check in on every couple of weeks. I feel somewhat of a responsibility to keep up with what the general zeitgeist seems to feel, think, and discuss. Even if they are discussions I have zero interest in participating in, if I am going to call myself an authority figure, I should at least be aware of what the current trends are.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/2000113-dragon-ball-general/55503810?page=1" target="_blank"><strong>This thread</strong></a> on the <strong>GameFAQs &#8220;DragonBall &#8211; General Message Board&#8221;</strong> area piqued my interest. I have a morbid curiosity in seeing how people explain Japanese pronunciations to other people in textual form. Someone wanted to know how to pronounce &#8220;Kuririn&#8221; &#8212; a valid question, especially considering that I have been working on my own pronunciation of the name for years. I <em>know</em> how to pronounce it, obviously, but my linguistic lack of skills have always slurred my &#8220;r&#8221; into &#8220;d&#8221; sounds! I think I have gotten it down pretty well these days&#8230; though I am certainly no Julian ^_~.</p>
<p>Anyway, this response made me chuckle:</p>
<blockquote><p>Krillin. You&#8217;re not Japanese.</p></blockquote>
<p>We have done whole podcast topics about &#8220;<a href="http://www.daizex.com/general/podcast/index_0001-0100.shtml#0070" target="_blank"><strong>today&#8217;s fans with regards to the series and the way they view it (both  the Japanese version and the English version, in relation to their  [dis]placement)</strong></a>&#8220;. It is totally fine if you want to be that way &#8212; as Julian has humorously quoted (and I paraphrase), &#8220;If English was good enough for Jesus, it&#8217;s good enough for me!&#8221;</p>
<p>Why bother with the &#8220;Japanese names&#8221;&#8230;? You speak English! It makes so much sense! We won&#8217;t even bother with examples like &#8220;Cell&#8221; and &#8220;Trunks&#8221; which Japanese-ify &#8220;English&#8221; words with their inherent extra syllables, but:</p>
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<li>What about some of the other character names, though? Don&#8217;t you say &#8220;<strong>Kami</strong>&#8220;&#8230;? OK, fine &#8212; maybe you try to be self-consistent and translate/speak it as &#8220;God&#8221;. I will give you an &#8220;out&#8221; on that one.</li>
<li>Don&#8217;t you say &#8220;<strong>Goku</strong>&#8220;, which is a Japanese reading of the Chinese  name for the Monkey King&#8230;? OK, fine &#8212; maybe you drop the &#8220;Son&#8221; surname to feel better about it and yourself.</li>
<li>Don&#8217;t you say &#8220;<strong>Tien</strong>&#8220;, which is a reference to something <em>Chinese</em>, never mind that it is not even how his name is spelled/pronounced in the <em>original Japanese</em> version of the show? I suppose this is pretty similar to the &#8220;Kuririn/Krillin&#8221; adaptation&#8230;</li>
<li>The name &#8220;<strong>Kuririn</strong>&#8221; is every bit of a pun-based name as &#8220;<strong>Ginyu</strong>&#8220;, which American fans typically write out and pronounce near-phonetically-equivalent to its original Japanese pronunciation &#8212; why is <em>that one</em> OK? Don&#8217;t you see the hypocrisy?</li>
<li>Don&#8217;t you say &#8220;<strong>Kamehameha</strong>&#8220;, which is a combination of actual Japanese and gibberish?</li>
<li>I am seeing hilarious conversations these days where dub fans are now  trying to figure out which sounds &#8220;more cool&#8221; to keep, since the dub of <strong>(Z)  Kai</strong> has changed things like &#8220;<strong>Destructo Disc</strong>&#8221; to &#8220;<strong>Kienzan</strong>&#8221; &#8212; their own overlords (the FUNimation English dub) won&#8217;t stay consistent for them, so they are left to flap about in confusion.</li>
<li>Worst of all&#8230; the Viz manga (you know, the <em>English </em>version) spells it as &#8220;<strong>Kuririn</strong>&#8220;. This has nothing to do with pronunciation, of course, though&#8230; but it somehow seems relevant, ya&#8217; know?</li>
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<p>I mean, shit&#8230; what about other shows where a character&#8217;s name <em>is a Japanese name</em>&#8230;? Do you &#8220;translate&#8221; it for fear of being seen as anti-American? Do you call the author of the series &#8220;<strong>Bird Mountain</strong>&#8220;, and if so, how do you reconcile the fact that his studio is literally called &#8220;<strong>Bird Mountain</strong>&#8220;&#8230;?</p>
<p>Why is it OK to keep <em>some</em> names with their Japanese pronunciations, and then disregard all others while scoffing at anyone who doesn&#8217;t choose to use <em>your </em>preferred dub&#8217;s spelling? Much like folks who have <em>only</em> read Viz&#8217;s translation (which has <em>exclusively</em> used the spelling &#8220;Kuririn&#8221;), I would wager that if the name was never changed to &#8220;Krillin&#8221; in the first place, these folks wouldn&#8217;t even blink at &#8220;Kuririn&#8221; all these decades later. I hate to play this card, since I am so sick of talking about it (and you are so sick of hearing about it)&#8230; but is it not simply because FUNimation <em>just happened</em> to have decided to change <em>that name</em>?</p>
<p>It is entirely inconsistent. It is ignorant. It is fearful. It is arrogant. It is hypocritical.</p>
<p><strong>The mentality of &#8220;<em>STFU your not jap spell/pronounce it dis way</em>&#8221; is laughably moronic when you are using other Japanese-based (if not un-changed, <em>entirely Japanese</em>) character names in the same breath.</strong></p>
<p>Yes, I am right and they are wrong. I dare you to argue otherwise ^_~.</p>
<p>(<strong>P.S.</strong> &#8211; Oh, and to answer the question&#8230; Japanese is pronounced very phonetically and with few exceptions. クリリン breaks down to &#8220;<em>ku &#8211; ri &#8211; ri &#8211; n</em>&#8220;. The <em>ku</em> is a short syllable that sounds close to the beginning of our word &#8220;cool&#8221;, the <em>ri</em> is a short syllable that sounds close to the beginning of our word &#8220;reed&#8221;, and there are two of those in a row, and then the last syllabic-&#8221;N&#8221; sound is pretty obvious in that it sounds just like it does at the end of our words like &#8220;pen&#8221;. It all slurs together pretty quickly so that it sounds like what I <a href="http://daizex.fanboyreview.net/viewtopic.php?p=344736#p344736" target="_blank"><strong>talked about here [MP3 example included]</strong></a>. &#8220;Krillin&#8221; is something that I feel is a totally legitimate transliteration of the name, but let&#8217;s not pretend that &#8220;Kuririn&#8221; is absurd.)</p>
<p>(<strong>P.P.S.</strong> &#8211; To semi-quote myself being sarcastic recently&#8230; &#8220;<em>Shit&#8217;s serious, yo.</em>&#8221;  No, this is not a big deal. At all. It does not affect anyone&#8217;s  day-to-day life. Just felt like writing about it.)</p>
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		<title>Prized Possessions: Nakao&#8217;s Autograph</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2010 15:19:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We somehow lost our digital camera&#8217;s battery charger a while back. Since we buckled down and purchased a replacement one, I have been looking around for random things to take photos of. It is one of those cases where you do not know what you have until you have lost it&#8230; then you get it [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We somehow lost our digital camera&#8217;s battery charger a while back. Since we buckled down and purchased a replacement one, I have been looking around for random things to take photos of. It is one of those cases where you do not know what you have until you have lost it&#8230; then you get it back and go nuts&#8230;</p>
<p>I am sure I will get bored with taking photos of random things again very soon. Until then, I will populate a new blog category: <strong>Prized Possessions</strong>. I can be incredibly materialistic at times, and get a kick out of showing off the random crap I have accumulated over the years. Hey, some may call that a &#8220;character flaw&#8221;&#8230; I call it &#8220;great blog fodder&#8221;.</p>
<p>It is no secret that I moderately worship at the feet of a one Mr. <strong>Ryûsei Nakao</strong>. It is not as creepy and overboard as I might lead you to believe &#8212; I mostly just play it up for amusement. At the same time, I <em>really do</em> think he is pretty amazing at what he does, and is worthy of the respect he receives. While Freeza is one of his best-known and well-loved roles, Nakao has brought his voice to tons of other engaging characters. I have recently learned about his role as Mayuri Kurotsuchi in <strong>Bleach</strong> (which makes <em>so much sense</em>&#8230;!), but one of my personal favorites is that of Iizuka from the <strong>Rurouni Kenshin</strong> OVAs (you know&#8230; the <em>one</em> OVA series&#8230; perhaps if I say that enough times, it will become true?). As a stark contrast to Freeza and Kurotsuchi, Iizuka is just <em>a regular guy</em>. OK, fine&#8230; he is a a mole within an organization and not really just &#8220;a regular guy&#8221;, but compared to some of the other notable characters Nakao has played, that is the best description possible.</p>
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<p>I think the guy is incredibly talented. Can you guess which of the items on this shelf is one of my most favorite things ever in the whole world like totally radical man?</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-985" title="freeza_autograph_1" src="http://www.vegettoex.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/freeza_autograph_1.jpg" alt="" width="600" height="450" /></p>
<p><a href="http://www.threesthecharm.com/" target="_blank"><strong>Meghan</strong></a> grabbed this for me at <strong>Animazement 2009</strong> when Nakao was a guest of honor (alongside Trunks&#8217; voice actor, <strong>Takeshi Kusao</strong>). Notice the autograph on there? Here is a close up:</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-986" title="freeza_autograph_2" src="http://www.vegettoex.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/freeza_autograph_2.jpg" alt="" width="350" height="467" /></p>
<p>What did I tell you?! Nakao wrote my freakin&#8217; name. <em>Radical</em>.</p>
<p>I have been looking for something along the lines of a see-through (maybe glass?) cube that I can put the figure inside of to keep dust off the base. Any suggestions on what I could get?</p>
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		<title>Behind The Joke: Appule</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 01:08:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>VegettoEX</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Regular fans of Daizenshuu EX no doubt have heard us drop Appule&#8217;s name in semi-sarcastic and humorous ways. It has grown into something of an &#8220;in-joke&#8221; over the years &#8212; it is funny enough on its own (&#8220;lolz random character&#8221;), but the way in which the joke continued to build upon itself adds a little [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regular fans of <a href="http://www.daizex.com" target="_blank"><strong>Daizenshuu EX</strong></a> no doubt have heard us drop Appule&#8217;s name in semi-sarcastic and humorous ways. It has grown into something of an &#8220;in-joke&#8221; over the years &#8212; it is funny enough on its own (&#8220;lolz random character&#8221;), but the way in which the joke continued to build upon itself adds a little bit to its mystique and hilarity, and may be worthy of discussion.</p>
<p>So, hey. Here you go.</p>
<p>Many years ago, I started working on a &#8220;<strong>Character Guide</strong>&#8221; for the website. It ultimately never turned into anything because I constantly bite off more than I can chew. Whenever I finished a page for a character, I realized I wanted to include even more information, and constantly found myself going back to do additional research. It was a never-ending cycle, so I eventually just gave up. Other areas of the website were far more important and useful.</p>
<p>In 2004, while still working on the section, I decided to develop a page for a character that appeared for a very limited amount of time. I had already done characters like Nappa and Raditz who, while they were only around for a short period of time, could still be considered &#8220;major&#8221; characters. My stipulation for myself was the character that I did a page for next had to at least <em>have a name</em> &#8212; no random characters like &#8220;Jingle Village Filler Man #2&#8243;. One of the first characters that came to mind was <strong>Appule</strong>. He was one of the most minor of henchmen, yet the fact that he not only had a name, but had a name that was actually spoken aloud during the anime, is what solidified the choice for me.</p>
<p>The character profile was slightly more interesting than others to write because Appule gained a palette-swap named <strong>Oran</strong> in the anime who occasionally replaced what might have been Appule in the manga &#8212; it was difficult to tell in black-and-white with so many henchman looking so similar to one another. I even enlisted <a href="http://daizex.fanboyreview.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&amp;t=663" target="_blank"><strong>the help of our forum</strong></a> to scan through some of the scenes and figure out exactly which character was absolutely Appule in which scenes.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-924" title="appule_character_bio" src="http://www.vegettoex.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/appule_character_bio.jpg" alt="" width="200" height="370" /></p>
<p>After writing the character biography page, I quickly adopted him as my scapegoat character for random jokes. What really solidified the joke for me was the <strong>Sparking!</strong> series of video games on the PlayStation 2 (and eventually the Wii) &#8212; so many new characters were being tossed into the game, I joked often (on and off the podcast) that when they announced that Appule was a playable character, we would know that they had finally begun scraping the bottom of the barrel. With the first <strong>Sparking!</strong> game featuring 90 playable characters and its sequel featuring 129, it didn&#8217;t seem like there would be many other notable characters to toss in.</p>
<p>In December 2006, Namco-Bandai announced a port of <strong>Sparking! NEO</strong> (released outside Japan as <strong>Budokai Tenkaichi 2</strong>) for the Nintendo Wii. We received the game first in North America as a near-launch game for the console, but it took a little bit of time for the game to be released in Japan and Europe. As a fun extra for the delayed port, these versions received a couple new characters to the roster. Guess who was announced?</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-925" title="appule_sparking_neo_wii" src="http://www.vegettoex.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/appule_sparking_neo_wii.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="220" /></p>
<p>Appule would go on to be a regular roster choice in <strong>Sparking! METEOR</strong> (released outside Japan as <strong>Budokai Tenkaichi 3</strong>), fulfilling his destiny according to my jokes.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-938" title="appule_game_sheet" src="http://www.vegettoex.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/appule_game_sheet.jpg" alt="" width="400" height="424" /></p>
<p>In 2008, <a href="http://www.teamfourstar.com" target="_blank"><strong>TeamFourStar</strong></a> debuted their <strong>DBZ Abridged</strong> fan parody series. In the very first  episode, Raditz makes an off-hand joke (after killing &#8220;The Farmer&#8221;):</p>
<p><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-950" title="appule_teamfourstar_joke" src="http://www.vegettoex.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/appule_teamfourstar_joke.jpg" alt="" width="576" height="320" /><br />
On <a href="http://www.daizex.com/general/podcast/#0135" target="_blank"><strong>Episode  #0135</strong></a> of our podcast, <strong>KaiserNeko</strong> confirmed for us that  it was a reference to our recurring joke with the character, launching  Appule to even further in-joke stardom.</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>MIKE</strong>: And I have to say, I guess I&#8217;ll interrupt you, ya&#8217; know, how you&#8217;re describing the process, there are certain jokes that almost seem directly aimed at Meri and myself.</p>
<p><strong>MERI</strong>: Hah, what?!</p>
<p><strong>KAISER</strong>: You know, that might actually have to do with the fact that I am a hardcore listener of your show!</p>
<p><em>(a little later in the show)</em></p>
<p><strong>MIKE</strong>: I have to ask, was there an Appule joke early in that episode?</p>
<p><strong>LANI &amp; KAISER</strong>: Yes there was!</p>
<p><strong>MERI</strong>: I thought so!</p>
<p><strong>MIKE</strong>: I didn&#8217;t hear it the first time. Meri was like, oh my god, they just made an Appule joke. I was like, really?</p>
<p><strong>LANI</strong>: &#8220;So this was why Dad said I couldn&#8217;t keep Appule&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>MIKE</strong>: Yes! Ah, Appule, these guys are right up my alley!</p>
<p><strong>KAISER</strong>: Actually, ya&#8217; know, when we wrote that joke I was thinking of you.</p>
<p><strong>MIKE</strong>: Aww!</p>
<p><strong>MERI</strong>: That&#8217;s so sweet!</p>
<p><strong>KAISER</strong>: That&#8217;s mostly because, I thought he&#8217;s the ONLY person who&#8217;s going to get the joke!</p></blockquote>
<p>That same year, I decided to pay tribute to my favorite, ridiculous, minor character in the series. I collected every single last bit of footage from the anime in which Appule appeared (including an episode during the Garlic Jr. filler arc where it seems like Vegeta kills an entire planet of Appule-esque characters), and tossed together <a href="http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members/members_videoinfo.php?v=162849" target="_blank"><strong>a funny little trailer</strong></a> called &#8220;<strong>Dead In Two Episodes</strong>&#8221; in a couple hours. I did not end up using every last second of footage, but only because many of the scenes are just redundant shots of the exact same thing. For all intents and purposes, every scene of Appule appears in the trailer. I happened to finish the trailer in time for <strong>Anime Weekend Atlanta</strong>&#8216;s &#8220;Professional&#8221; anime music video contest that year. It was nominated for &#8220;Best Trailer&#8221;, but I have to imagine it was only because there were so few trailers submitted to the contest.</p>
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<p>In November 2008 on <a href="http://www.daizex.com/general/podcast/#0152" target="_blank"><strong>Episode #0152</strong></a> of our podcast, our buddy Jeff asked us about character name puns that had not been &#8220;completed&#8221;. For example, the <strong>Jump Super Anime Tour</strong> special completed &#8220;Vegeta&#8221; with &#8220;Table&#8221; (using the entire word &#8220;vegetable&#8221; now to form two distinct name puns). For whatever reason, Appule&#8217;s name was brought up:</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>JEFF</strong>: Well, that kinda leads to the question, are there any other characters that haven&#8217;t filled out their pun yet?</p>
<p><strong>MIKE</strong>: Aahh&#8230; yeah!</p>
<p><strong>MERI</strong>: &#8220;Paragas&#8221; &#8212; &#8220;a&#8221;&#8230;!</p>
<p><strong>MIKE</strong>: &#8220;Broli&#8221; &#8212; &#8220;co&#8221;&#8230;!</p>
<p><strong>JEFF</strong>: No, no, wait. I could say Appule&#8230; Appu&#8230; Paragas&#8230;</p>
<p><strong>MIKE</strong>: He&#8217;s neither Saiya-jin nor vegetable.</p>
<p><strong>JEFF</strong>: True. But, like, &#8220;Appule&#8221; and &#8220;Paragas&#8221;, you could say &#8220;Appu&#8230; ra&#8230; gas&#8230;&#8221;&#8230; never mind.</p>
<p><strong>MIKE</strong>: So Jeff, you want Appule and Paragas to fuse!</p>
<p><strong>MERI</strong>: SOMEONE DRAW THIS!</p>
<p><strong>MIKE</strong>: Into what?</p>
<p><strong>JULIAN</strong>: Oh noooo!</p>
<p><strong>MIKE</strong>: What is the resulting fusion name?</p>
<p><strong>JEFF</strong>: &#8220;Appuragas&#8221;.</p></blockquote>
<p>Within a week, that drawing existed. Our listener <a href="http://tekkaman-james.deviantart.com/" target="_blank"><strong>Tekkaman-James</strong></a> created &#8220;Appuragas&#8221; for all the world to see:</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-966" title="appule_appuragas" src="http://www.vegettoex.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/appule_appuragas.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="461" /></p>
<p>Just this year (2010), a new line of figures call &#8220;<strong>Freeza&#8217;s Force</strong>&#8221; has been seeing a release in Japan. While the first line contained the expected characters like Freeza himself and all of Ginyu-<em>Tokusentai</em>, the third line was set to contain Appule (along with plenty of other <em>extremely minor</em> henchmen). I was more than happy to place my order when he became <a href="http://www.play-asia.com/SOap-23-83-1xfa-71-8x-77-b-49-en-15-freeza%27s+force-84-j-70-3u9k.html" target="_blank"><strong>available for purchase on Play-Asia</strong></a>!</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-935" title="appule_freezas_force_figure" src="http://www.vegettoex.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/appule_freezas_force_figure.jpg" alt="" width="250" height="353" /></p>
<p>So that brings us all the way up through today. It may not seem it (especially after <em>an action figure</em> and even an appearance as <em>a playable video game character</em>), but there are plenty more places to take Appule. Hopefully we will see some more of him in the near future.</p>
<p>Long story short, The Farmer has <em>nothing</em> on Appule. We also certainly would not some kind of short <em>manga</em> explaining &#8220;Appuragas&#8221; and his origin story&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Daizenshuu EX Removed From YouTube</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 May 2010 01:12:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>VegettoEX</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was both anticipating (expecting, really) and dreading this day &#8212; today was the day that the &#8220;daizex&#8221; YouTube account was removed due to &#8220;copyright infringement&#8221;. What makes it so delicious is the &#8220;third strike&#8221; which resulted in the take-down: One of our &#8220;Inconsistencies&#8221; videos. For those who are unfamiliar with them, over at Daizenshuu [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was both anticipating (expecting, really) and dreading this day &#8212; today was the day that the &#8220;<strong>daizex</strong>&#8221; YouTube account was removed due to &#8220;copyright infringement&#8221;. What makes it so delicious is the &#8220;third strike&#8221; which resulted in the take-down:</p>
<p>One of our &#8220;<strong>Inconsistencies</strong>&#8221; videos.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-854" title="inconsistencies_red_x" src="http://www.vegettoex.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/inconsistencies_red_x.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="247" /></p>
<p>For those who are unfamiliar with them, over at <a href="http://www.daizex.com" target="_blank"><strong>Daizenshuu EX</strong></a> we created a series of (so far) three videos in our &#8220;Inconsistencies&#8221; line (itself a multimedia extension of our &#8220;<a href="http://www.daizex.com/guides/filler/" target="_blank"><strong>Filler Guide</strong></a>&#8220;). In conjunction with a podcast episode (where we discussed the same topic matter among several hosts), we would create a short, narrated video that showcased the differences between the original manga (comic) version of a scene from <strong>DragonBall </strong>and its later TV adaptation. In our first video, we presented a scene where one character (Vegeta) sees another character&#8217;s transformed state (SSJ Goku) in the TV version, which never actually happened that way in the manga, and what the ramifications would be from this. In our second video, we presented a scene where the villain (Freeza and Dodoria) who murders a character (Cargo) is changed when adapted to the TV version. In our third video, we presented a scene in which there is a slight change in the order of events in a scene (Piccolo pushing Goku out of the way of a blast from Freeza).</p>
<p>In all three videos, panning and zooming shots from the original manga version are presented with original narration. A short clip from the corresponding TV episode (with subtitles of our own creation, since we are using the original Japanese version of the show) is played. To conclude, we recap with a couple more panning and zooming screen shots from both the manga and TV versions.</p>
<p>They are basically nerd-erific showcases of dedicated love for the franchise. While we have not quite seen anything exactly along the lines of what we created, other examples do exist out there &#8212; our buddy <strong>MistareFusion</strong> created a great video that has fun analyzing what appears to be a very intentional nod to <strong>Star Trek</strong> in one scene from the <strong>DragonBall Z</strong> TV series:</p>
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<p>Are we using copyrighted works &#8220;without permission&#8221;&#8230;? Sure. Does that extend to even things like using music from the TV series, in addition to showcasing an actual scene from it? Absolutely. There is no delusion here.</p>
<p>Is it &#8220;fair use&#8221;&#8230;? Let&#8217;s hold off for a minute on that.</p>
<p>The way that the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Millennium_Copyright_Act" target="_blank"><strong>DMCA</strong></a>) works is that if any kind of provider or host (let&#8217;s say <strong>YouTube</strong>) is notified by a rights holder (let&#8217;s say <strong>Toei Animation</strong>) that one of their works is being improperly used, stored, transmitted, etc., that provider or host must <em>immediately</em> remove or otherwise take down the infringing material. There is no review process until <em>after</em> the material is removed &#8212; if and only if the creator of said infringing material (let&#8217;s say <strong>me</strong>) chooses to file a counter-claim (in which they are saying that the material <strong>is not</strong> infringing, may actually be fair use, etc.). Basically, if you are notified to take something down&#8230; you take it down without question, or face further action. The rights holder faces no immediate repercussions for issuing take-down notices to content providers &#8212; this means they can issue take-down notices willy-nilly in blanket rollouts and hope for the best under the (safe) assumption that everything will be taken down with no argument. There is the potential for a horribly chilling effect on free speech when organizations hide behind the DMCA to remove legal commentary (for example, issuing a DMCA take-down notice on something they simply <em>don&#8217;t like</em>, rather than something <em>genuinely infringing</em>), but that is not the subject of this post, and not something I have enough familiarity with to authoritatively rant about.</p>
<p>YouTube works on their own personal &#8220;three strike&#8221; rule, whereby an account that receives three take-down notices from rights holders will be immediately deactivated. My main &#8220;daizex&#8221; account had received two notices of take-downs from YouTube regarding two prior videos:</p>
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<li>While working on <a href="http://www.daizex.com/general/reviews/rule_sparkle.shtml" target="_blank"><strong>my review</strong></a> of Ayumi Hamasaki&#8217;s &#8220;<strong><em>Rule</em></strong>&#8221; CD single and DVD, I edited a short video clip from the music video to include on the page. Within minutes the video was removed from my account with a take-down notice from the music rights holder in Japan.</li>
<li>On April 1st of this year, we received a take-down notice on the opening theme to the video game <strong>DragonBall Z 3</strong> (&#8220;Budokai 3&#8243;) for the PlayStation 2 (which can still be viewed <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Eo6RcKwz18" target="_blank"><strong>here</strong></a> and <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6XbQ_U7dU4" target="_blank"><strong>here</strong></a> and <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0h_UMDhIgg" target="_blank"><strong>here</strong></a> on YouTube via other users&#8217; accounts). We subsequently removed other game-related videos from our account. This was legitimately just a case of, &#8220;We think this is cool and will post it up for folks.&#8221; There were no &#8220;education&#8221; or &#8220;review&#8221; pages associated with it.</li>
<li>This morning, we received the following e-mail:</li>
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<blockquote><p>We have disabled the following material as a result of a third-party notification from TOEI ANIMATION CO.,LTD. claiming that this material is infringing:</p>
<p><strong>DBZ Filler Inconsistencies: Video #3</strong><br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_Y3KQRusWY" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_Y3KQRusWY</a></p>
<p>This is the <strong>third</strong> notification we have received alleging copyright infringement in one of your postings. Consequently, your <strong>account has been terminated</strong>.</p>
<p>If one of your postings has been misidentified as infringing, you may submit a counter-notification. Information about this process is in our <a href="http://www.google.com/support/youtube/bin/answer.py?answer=59826" target="_blank">Help Center</a>.</p>
<p>Please note that there may be severe legal consequences for filing a false or bad-faith notice.</p>
<p>Sincerely,</p>
<p>— The YouTube Team</p></blockquote>
<p>Were the first two claims pretty accurate? Sure. Does that diminish the accuracy or weight of the third claim? That&#8217;s up to you to decide. Personally, I think if anything is going to be called &#8220;fair use&#8221;, it is a video like one in our &#8220;Inconsistencies&#8221; series.</p>
<p>The Electronic Frontier Foundation (<strong>EFF</strong>) <a href="http://w2.eff.org/IP/eff_fair_use_faq.php" target="_blank"><strong>breaks down</strong></a> the area of fair use as such:</p>
<blockquote><p>There are no clear-cut rules for deciding what&#8217;s fair use and there are no &#8220;automatic&#8221; classes of fair uses. Fair use is decided by a judge, on a case by case basis, after balancing the four factors listed in section 107 of the Copyright statute. The factors to be considered include:</p>
<ol type="a">
<li>The purpose and character of the use, including whether such use 	is of a commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes 	&#8211; Courts are more likely to find fair use where the use is for 	noncommercial purposes.</li>
<li>The nature of the copyrighted work &#8212; A particular use is more 	likely to be fair where the copied work is factual rather than 	creative.</li>
<li>The amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to 	the copyrighted work as a whole &#8212; A court will balance this factor 	toward a finding of fair use where the amount taken is small or 	insignificant in proportion to the overall work.</li>
<li>The effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of 	the copyrighted work &#8212; If the court finds the newly created work is 	not a substitute product for the copyrighted work, it will be more 	likely to weigh this factor in favor of fair use.</li>
</ol>
</blockquote>
<p><strong>(A-1) Was our video commercial in nature?<br />
</strong>No. We were not enrolled in any revenue-sharing program via YouTube. We do not make any money off of <strong>Daizenshuu EX</strong> &#8212; while we do accept <a href="http://www.daizex.com/interaction/donate/" target="_blank"><strong>donations</strong></a>, any money received is put immediately back into the site for things like product reviews, hosting, etc. If you care to know, we&#8217;re in the hole. Always have been.</p>
<p><strong>(A-2) Was our video educational in nature?<br />
</strong>Maybe. While not a scholarly work in any way, an authoritative presentation of information could be considered &#8220;educational&#8221;. At the very least, it was &#8220;insightful&#8221;&#8230; or so we like to think ^_~.</p>
<p><strong>(B) What was the nature of the copyrighted work?</strong><br />
Well, the copied work was creative (a fictional, animated TV series).</p>
<p><strong>(C) What was the amount of copyrighted work used in relation to its larger whole?</strong><br />
Within our three-minute-and-sixteen-seconds video, the vast majority was original narration and still-shots from the manga and TV versions. Footage taken &#8220;verbatim&#8221; (for lack of a better phrase) plays between 0:30 and 1:26 (including fades in and out), meaning it is less than one minute in length, and less than one-third of the short video. As for an amount in &#8220;comparison&#8221; with the original product, are we comparing in relation to the one particular episode? An episode is roughly 22 minutes long. Are we comparing in relation to the entirety of the TV series? <strong>DragonBall Z</strong> is 291 episodes long, while its preceding and proceeding series have 153 and 64 episodes, respectively&#8230;</p>
<p><strong>(D) What is the effect upon the potential market?</strong><br />
Our video is clearly not a substitute for the original product, in that we are constantly interrupting scenes with original narration and swiping them away to move onto the next point. We discuss roughly one minute or so of content from one TV episode of a long-running series. Furthermore, in this particular video we do not even discuss (never mind showcase) what is typically regarded as the most substantial and important &#8220;part&#8221; of the episode (Goku&#8217;s first SSJ transformation) &#8212; I personally think that is relevant to this fourth defense point, but you may disagree.</p>
<p>So where do we go from here?</p>
<p>I am not entirely sure. I think it is worth it to <a href="http://www.google.com/support/youtube/bin/answer.py?answer=59826" target="_blank"><strong>file a counter-claim</strong></a> with regard to this particular &#8220;Inconsistencies&#8221; video, but it is a lot of work for little value in return &#8212; which is exactly what the rights-holders are hoping for from an attitude out of those they issue take-down notices against. There is also the fact that some of the material on the channel as a whole was more legitimately &#8220;infringing&#8221;.</p>
<p>In the long run, though, I do not <em>need</em> YouTube to host these videos. I could just stream them myself on <strong>Daizenshuu EX</strong> all on my own! One of the reasons I put them up on YouTube, however, was &#8212; of course &#8212; the massive audience potential. We serve such a niche audience with our website that it can be difficult to find the right ways to reach out to and extend that audience. Our goal is simply to spread our love and enjoyment of the series (and specifically the original Japanese version of it), and a lot of fans out there just have no idea where to look for something like that. We have had plenty of new, regular visitors tell us they found us video YouTube, via our podcast listing in iTunes, via seeing us at conventions, etc. They are all great ways to reach out to that audience, so it made sense to explore that avenue.</p>
<p>The other side of me just wants to abandon it (YouTube being the &#8220;it&#8221;), though. We all know how <a href="http://www.vegettoex.com/blog/2010/01/14/individual-contributions-to-dbz-fandom/"><strong>ridiculous</strong></a> the <a href="http://www.vegettoex.com/blog/2009/01/13/youtube-comments-their-irrelevance/"><strong>comments</strong></a> are, and if we are not <em>greatly</em> expanding our audience there, then is it really worth it to keep producing for it? I am well aware (and have been constantly reminded), though, that the majority of people simply watch the video, smile, enjoy it, and move on with their lives. I consume media online in very much that same way. Positive feedback can be difficult to come by! While I joke that the negative feedback on the videos (from folks who generally are not our target audience to begin with) acts as a pretty huge hurdle to overcome in wanting to produce more, I recognize that plenty of folks out there actually <em>do</em> enjoy them and would not mind seeing more. With that in mind, I actually made a video showcasing the Bandai Playdia video game system <a href="http://www.facebook.com/daizex#!/video/video.php?v=825162445769" target="_blank"><strong>exclusive to our Facebook page</strong></a>.</p>
<p>So. Uh. Thoughts?</p>
<p>(Oh yeah&#8230; curious to see that &#8220;Inconsistencies&#8221; video that resulted in the channel take-down? <a href="http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=10100103807306209" target="_blank"><strong>I tossed it up over on our Facebook page</strong></a>. Enjoy! We&#8217;ll see how long <em>that</em> lasts!)</p>
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		<title>Japanese DBZ Video Game Hilarity</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 01 May 2010 16:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>VegettoEX</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Every so often I like to just kick back and read through all of the various boxes and instruction books for my old, Japanese DragonBall video games. I happened to be scanning through the Super Famicom stuff this morning when I re-discovered the fantastic, not-entirely-&#8221;Engrish&#8221; splash text on one of the most acclaimed games for [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every so often I like to just kick back and read through all of the various boxes and instruction books for my old, Japanese <em>DragonBall</em> video games. I happened to be scanning through the Super Famicom stuff this morning when I re-discovered the fantastic, not-entirely-&#8221;Engrish&#8221; splash text on one of the most acclaimed games for the generation, <strong>Sûpâ Saiya Densetsu</strong> (&#8220;<em>Legend of the Super Saiyan</em>&#8220;).</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-840" title="super_saiya_densetsu" src="http://www.vegettoex.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/super_saiya_densetsu.jpg" alt="" width="400" height="711" /></p>
<p>One of the things that I love about the box is its use of &#8220;<strong>Super Saiya-jin</strong>&#8221; rather than the standard (even for Japan) &#8220;<strong>Super Saiyan</strong>&#8220;. Pronunciation issues and differences aside, &#8220;Saiyan&#8221; has almost always been the de facto standard for Japan&#8217;s own romanization of the term, so it is a little shocking to see an outlier like this.</p>
<p>More than anything, though, the splash text as a whole just reeks with dramatic awesomeness, and at least one fantastic mis-spelling. Can you spot it?</p>
<blockquote><p>The strongest man in the space. SON GOKOU fights the series of the terrible baitles for our space. That&#8217;s where the legend of the Super Saiya-jin starts from. Burning blood!!</p></blockquote>
<p>What more is there to say? I have a bunch more examples like this to share&#8230; just gotta remind me every so often, folks!</p>
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		<title>Cropping Complaints (Sorta) Justified Three Years Later</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 02:39:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>VegettoEX</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I almost feel like it is not even worth bringing this up. I mean, honestly&#8230; the FUNimation cropping fiasco of 2007 is three years old. Not only is it old, but it is irrelevant with the release of domestic Dragon Box sets. This just makes me smirk a little too much, though. When Mike smirks, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I almost feel like it is not even worth bringing this up. I mean, honestly&#8230; the FUNimation cropping fiasco of 2007<strong></strong> is three years old. Not only is it <em>old</em>, but it is <em>irrelevant</em> with the release of domestic Dragon Box sets.</p>
<p>This just makes me smirk a little too much, though. When Mike smirks, it usually manifests itself as a blog post. And you all have to suffer.</p>
<p>In case you have been living under a DBZ fandom rock for the last half-decade, there was a lovely bit of controversy in 2007 when FUNimation released a so-called &#8220;remastered&#8221; version of the <strong>DragonBall Z</strong> TV series on DVD in North America. Among things like lies about the remastering process, the whole thing was brought into a new 16:9 aspect ratio presentation by cropping 20% of the footage (the top and bottom of the screen) to fit it into that viewing window.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-635" title="crop_example_1" src="http://www.vegettoex.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/crop_example_1.jpg" alt="" width="200" height="150" /> <img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-636" title="crop_example_2" src="http://www.vegettoex.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/crop_example_2.jpg" alt="" width="267" height="150" /></p>
<p>Hilarity ensued online.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.daizex.com" target="_blank"><strong>Daizenshuu EX</strong></a> is (obviously) at the forefront of the English-speaking fandom in a variety of ways. We have been following the series as a website since 1998, which includes all of the North American releases. We have a wealth of knowledge and experience with the franchise as both an original Japanese entity and a domestic &#8220;reversioning&#8221;. We took a stand against the cropping. Many of the casual fans could not understand why it was an issue for us&#8230; and understandably so. If you simply wanted to <em>watch the show</em>, the cheap <a href="http://www.vegettoex.com/blog/2009/09/30/lesson-of-the-day-brick-is-not-an-insult/" target="_self"><strong>orange bricks</strong></a> were a wonderful way to legally to do so (something we agreed with from the get-go). These types of fans (of which there are plenty) met the opposition with well-written, researched, and thorough arguments on how we were all just a bunch of fags, should shut up, and just be thankful we ever got the show in the first place. Why do we care so much? These fans <em>do not even notice</em> the cropping, and would prefer that the picture fill up their awesome, widescreen HDTV.</p>
<p>(Wondering why <strong>Daizenshuu EX</strong> would care about the aspect ratio of DBZ would be like wondering why the health care industry has an interest in American health care reform. We bitch because we love.)</p>
<p>Two years later, <strong>DragonBall Kai</strong> began airing on Japanese TV, also cropped into a 16:9 aspect ratio (though it was actually being produced in a full 4:3 which was later presented as-is on the Blu-ray release). Some of the scenes were adjusted for more carefully-presented cropping (sliding them up or down a little bit to adjust for a center of focus), but overall, it was a similar process to the FUNimation release from two years prior.</p>
<p>Episode 43 of <strong>DragonBall Kai</strong> aired on <strong>06 February 2010</strong> in Japan. Almost immediately, there was a bout of fan outcry&#8230; <em>on several <a href="http://daizex.fanboyreview.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&amp;t=12588" target="_blank"><strong>different</strong></a> <a href="http://www.toonzone.net/forums/showthread.php?t=232706&amp;page=21" target="_blank"><strong>forums</strong></a></em>&#8230; on how ridiculous it was that Toei could be so sloppy as to not finish drawing Goku&#8217;s arm:</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-619" title="kai_goku_crop_1" src="http://www.vegettoex.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/kai_goku_crop_1.jpg" alt="" width="512" height="286" /></p>
<p>There were actually two camps, to be fair. While there were definitely<strong> (1)</strong> those that placed the blame on Toei&#8217;s art department (assuming it was a completely re-drawn scene that was never completed), there were also <strong>(2)</strong> others who were quick to place the blame on Toei&#8217;s cropping department &#8212; these folks knew the whole story (keep reading), and knew that it was an awkward and inadvertent cropping.</p>
<p>Sure enough, if you look at a different encode and frame of the episode as captured from Japanese television, you get a little more insight:</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-620" title="kai_goku_crop_2" src="http://www.vegettoex.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/kai_goku_crop_2.jpg" alt="" width="512" height="288" /></p>
<p>The <em>slightest bit</em> of Goku&#8217;s arm is visible at the bottom of the frame. Checking back on the original animation from the actual <strong>DragonBall Z</strong> TV series, we get the whole story:</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-621" title="kai_goku_crop_3" src="http://www.vegettoex.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/kai_goku_crop_3.jpg" alt="" width="512" height="384" /></p>
<p>What this says to me is that even <strong>without</strong> some prominent website that has a ridiculous interest in the presentation of the series pointing it out to them&#8230; certain fans <em>still</em> noticed a problem with the cropping. Not only that, but they brought their complaints and ridicule online to share with their peers.</p>
<p>The hypocrisy is a bit silly. Why was it unjustified to bring FUNimation to <strong>Elitist Weeaboo Fanboy Court<strong>™</strong></strong> over <em>their</em> cropping of the series, but it was totally fine to go after Toei for the exact same thing? Was it just an extension of the complacent American fan culture that has no problem with their domestic releases, but Japanese stuff is OK and funny to laugh at? Lolz Goku sounds like a girlie and his arm is missing?</p>
<p>Sure, it was totally just this <em>one minor scene</em> during one episode of <strong>Kai</strong> that gave us some laughs online. It was <em>nothing</em> compared to the FUNimation fiasco in terms of prevalence and significance. On some tiny level, though, it made me feel something resembling justification for my complaints against the domestic cropping.</p>
<p><strong>People <em>do</em> notice this kind of stuff, even when it is not specifically pointed out to them. That&#8217;s all there is to it.</strong></p>
<p>Oh, and just for the Hell of it, here&#8217;s how it looked on FUNimation&#8217;s faux-&#8221;remastered&#8221; orange brick numero tres. It looks nearly identical to the recent shot from <strong>Kai</strong>. Did anyone complain about it back in 2007&#8230;?</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-664" title="kai_goku_crop_4" src="http://www.vegettoex.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/kai_goku_crop_4.jpg" alt="" width="512" height="288" /></p>
<p>Thanks to <strong>Hujio</strong> and <strong>Kaboom</strong> for a bit of screen shot assistance!</p>
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		<title>Individual Contributions to DBZ Fandom</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 03:21:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>VegettoEX</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is always fascinating when we are able to track down the actual first-time uses of certain words or phrases in DBZ fandom. Some of the things we take for granted and simply accept as commonplace were actually created by fans either for simplicity&#8217;s sake, out of ignorance, or even sometimes out of honest mis-translation. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is always fascinating when we are able to track down the actual first-time uses of certain words or phrases in DBZ fandom. Some of the things we take for granted and simply accept as commonplace were actually created by fans either for simplicity&#8217;s sake, out of ignorance, or even sometimes out of honest mis-translation.</p>
<p>Some of our favorite examples are things like:</p>
<ul>
<li>&#8220;<strong>Ultra Super Saiya-jin</strong>&#8220;, a term coined by Curtis Hoffmann back in 1993 in his summaries of the <em>tankôbon </em>to describe the in-between stages of SSJ that Vegeta, Trunks, and even Goku showcase after Cell has been introduced</li>
<li>&#8220;<strong>Kushami</strong>&#8220;, the Japanese word for &#8220;sneeze&#8221;, also coined by Hoffmann in 1993 as a nickname for Lunch in her transformed state</li>
<li>&#8220;<strong>AD</strong>&#8221; as used for years in the chronology of the series, a mis-translation of <em>eiji</em> or simply &#8220;Age&#8221; by Greg Werner in the late 1990s from his translation of the timeline in the seventh daizenshuu</li>
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<p>There are other ones that we have not been able to track down the first-ever uses for. There is &#8220;<strong>Mystic Gohan&#8221;</strong> to refer to the character after his &#8220;upgrade&#8221; from the Old Kaiôshin (which goes back to at least the year 2000 in quick searches); there is the word &#8220;<strong>zenkai</strong>&#8221; <a href="http://daizex.fanboyreview.net/viewtopic.php?t=2878" target="_blank"><strong>incorrectly used</strong></a> as a proper noun to explain the power-up that a Saiya-jin receives after recovering from near-death, which appears to be an English-language-only development, possibly originating sometime in the early-to-mid-2000s; there is &#8220;<strong>base</strong>&#8221; that gets used to refer to the &#8220;normal&#8221; (<em>tsûjô </em>in Japanese), non-SSJ forms of characters, which appears to have become common-place in the English-speaking fandom during the PS2 video game revival for the franchise.</p>
<p>It really gets funny when people cross the line into delusional territory, though. A commenter on <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_Y3KQRusWY" target="_blank"><strong>our third &#8220;Inconsistencies&#8221; video</strong></a> posted and asked why the video was receiving bad comments. When another commenter was challenged on their response of it being from &#8220;some guy [who] is being critical and nitpicking when he himself has made no creative contribution to this world&#8221;, they followed up and justified their existence and contributions to fandom with:</p>
<blockquote><p>Well if you really need to know, I&#8217;m the first person to use the word &#8220;canon&#8221; in reference to continuity. That was on the Pojo forums way back in maybe 2002. You won&#8217;t find any record of that word being used in that context previous to that time either. So, yeah it&#8217;s more of a contribution to a﻿ subculture in general and not specifically to DBZ, even tho it was on a DBZ forum.<br />
I&#8217;ll add that it was a more or less original contribution and not simply a commentary on a finished work.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes. You read that right. This individual honestly believes that they invented the term &#8220;canon&#8221; as it relates to continuity in a work, fictional or otherwise (or, giving them the biggest benefit of the doubt that I can, perhaps just <em>DragonBall</em>). Either that, or they at least have a hilarious (if not obnoxious) sense of humor about themselves.</p>
<p>The word &#8220;canon&#8221; <a href="http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.dragonball/browse_thread/thread/5d47c91f0a1f2d28/a918a0b39b04fc6b?q=%22canon%22+group:alt.fan.dragonball#a918a0b39b04fc6b" target="_blank"><strong>shows up</strong></a> <em>at least</em> two years prior on <strong>alt.fan.dragonball</strong> (and probably <em>much</em> earlier if you are willing to dig). This person&#8217;s claim is essentially dead-on-arrival from the very beginning.</p>
<p>The word itself goes back thousands of years with this very same definition, so they <em>certainly</em> can&#8217;t take the claim in that respect. As far as I know (and I hardly claim to be an expert), the term originated with the Bible and what the church deemed to be the &#8220;true&#8221; and &#8220;correct&#8221; stories to include in their official version. The word and its associated phrases (&#8220;Such and such is canonical&#8230;&#8221;) have been floating around with not just anime, but all types of fiction for decades. I know little-to-nothing about <strong>Star Wars</strong>, but I know there are just as many heightened-emotion arguments about what is canonical with its expanded universe as there are with our own ridiculous arguments relating to <strong>DragonBall GT</strong> and the movies and the guide books and the international translations and so on and so forth.</p>
<p>That someone honestly believes that they were the first person to use the word &#8220;canon&#8221; as it relates to <strong>DragonBall</strong>&#8230; and did so only in 2002&#8230; and relays this information with the tone they did, propping their &#8220;original contribution&#8221; above something that is &#8220;simply a commentary on a finished work&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>I mean, it goes <em>beyond</em> delusional at that point, right&#8230;?</p>
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		<title>Why the &#8220;Frieza&#8221; Spelling Drives Me Nuts</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 01:59:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Know this, dear Internet readers: it was painful to type the name as such into the blog post title. Anyone who has followed my wacky adventures online for any amount of time knows how much I squirm at FUNimation&#8217;s spelling of the name of this character: フリーザ I once wrote up a somewhat-detailed explanation on [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Know this, dear Internet readers: it was painful to type the name as such into the blog post title.</p>
<p>Anyone who has followed my wacky adventures online for any amount of time knows how much I squirm at FUNimation&#8217;s spelling of the name of this character:</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><strong>フリーザ</strong><br />
<img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-501" title="freeza_top" src="http://www.vegettoex.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/freeza_top.jpg" alt="freeza_top" /></p>
<p>I once wrote up a somewhat-detailed explanation on how to romanize the character&#8217;s name that I inserted into Wikipedia articles, which were then deleted and re-added to <a href="http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Cooler" target="_blank"><strong>some pretty terrible DB Wikia articles</strong></a>, getting re-written and distorted along the way. If you read any of those sites, perhaps this explanation may sound familiar.</p>
<p>Like his brother and father, Freeza&#8217;s name is a pun on all things relating to the cold. As both Freeza&#8217;s and Coola&#8217;s names end in a short &#8220;a&#8221; vowel (rather than the long <em>â/aa</em> which usually signifies &#8220;er&#8221; in <em>kana</em> spellings of English words), Freeza&#8217;s name is typically spelled with an &#8220;a&#8221; at the end (as opposed to &#8220;Freezer&#8221;). Logic would of course follow that his brother&#8217;s name should in turn be spelled in a similar fashion as &#8220;Coola&#8221; (rather than &#8220;Cooler&#8221;). FUNimation chooses to spell the names as &#8220;Cooler&#8221; and &#8220;Frieza&#8221;, removing the consistency between the names and their final vowels.</p>
<p>The actual English word &#8220;freezer&#8221; would be written out in <em>katakana</em> as フリーザー / <em>fur</em><em>îz</em><em>â</em>, so it would stand to reason that we should spell the <strong>DragonBall</strong> character&#8217;s name as &#8220;Freeza&#8221; instead of &#8220;Freezer&#8221; (note that in Japanese, the Pokemon we know as Articuno is actually フリーザー&#8230;!). There are other, similar examples in the series. イレーザ / <em>irêza </em>is typically adapted as &#8220;Eresa&#8221; instead of &#8220;Eraser&#8221;, while the ミスター in ミスター ・サタン / <em>misutâ satan</em> should pretty clearly be adapted as &#8220;Mister&#8221; rather than &#8220;Mista&#8221;.</p>
<p>This all ignores the elongated <em>î/ii</em> sound in the middle of the name, which is dandy and all, except that it ignores the point of this post. That&#8217;s fine. With knowledge in hand (and knowledge is, of course, power), here is a breakdown of why &#8220;Frieza&#8221; irritates me so:</p>
<p><strong>(1) Lack of consistency<br />
</strong>As noted, if you are going to end one character&#8217;s name with &#8220;a&#8221;, it should follow that the other character&#8217;s name should end in the same way. Instead, FUNimation provides a name spelling of &#8220;Cooler&#8221;.</p>
<p><strong>(2) Lack of common sense<br />
</strong>Leading up to the written-form appearance of the character&#8217;s name in the TV version of the series&#8217; title cards (original, edited, dubbed episode 34: &#8220;The Ruthless Frieza&#8221;), every single instance of the name written in our alphabet used the commonly-accepted &#8220;Freeza&#8221; spelling. If you turn on the closed captioning for TV broadcast recordings of episodes before (and even sometimes after!) #34 from 1997, during any case in which a character speaks &#8220;Freeza&#8221; by name aloud, it is written with the double-&#8221;ee&#8221; spelling&#8230; clearly indicating that there was no style guide provided to the closed captioning transcribers, and that they obviously thought it was the &#8220;correct&#8221; spelling.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-484" title="freeza_dub_cc" src="http://www.vegettoex.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/freeza_dub_cc.jpg" alt="freeza_dub_cc" /><br />
<em>In the closed captioning for season two, it was almost always written as &#8220;Freeza&#8221;</em></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><em><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-480" title="frieza_dub_titlecard" src="http://www.vegettoex.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/frieza_dub_titlecard.jpg" alt="frieza_dub_titlecard" /></em><em><br />
Original FUNimation DBZ dub episode 34 title card<br />
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<p>Furthermore, Bandai actually released versions of the &#8220;Super Battle Collection&#8221; figures in 1997 in North America, which was the very first run of licensed (through FUNimation!), domestic figures. Which name spelling appeared on the box?</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-489" title="freeza_1997_figures" src="http://www.vegettoex.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/freeza_1997_figures.jpg" alt="freeza_1997_figures" /></p>
<p><strong>(3) Lack of fans&#8217; ability to even spell the misspelling properly<br />
</strong><a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=Freiza" target="_blank">Freiza</a>. <a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=Frezia" target="_blank">Frezia</a>. <a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=Frizea" target="_blank">Frizea</a>. (Insert Maximum the Hormone joke here.) Even the dub fans have no clue how to spell it.</p>
<p><strong>(4) Lack of pronunciation guide<br />
</strong>How exactly do you speak aloud &#8220;Frieza&#8221;&#8230;? You may think it&#8217;s simple, but take a listen when you view <a href="http://www.gametrailers.com/video/review-hd-dragon-ball/59890" target="_blank"><strong>GameTrailers&#8217; video review</strong></a> of <strong>Raging Blast</strong>. &#8220;Saiyan&#8221; is pronounced as it should be (which is to say, <em>not</em> as FUNimation pronounces it), and &#8220;Frieza&#8221; comes out as something like &#8220;Fray-za&#8221;.</p>
<p><strong>(5) Lack of other English-language production support<br />
</strong>In the subtitle track corresponding to the Japanese audio on all FUNimation releases, the character&#8217;s name is spelled as &#8220;Freeza&#8221;. Thankfully, Viz was releasing the manga at a time when FUNimation consistency or alignment was laughable, and so the standard &#8220;Freeza&#8221; spelling also made its appearance.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><em><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-499" title="freeza_funi_subs" src="http://www.vegettoex.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/freeza_funi_subs.jpg" alt="freeza_funi_subs" /><br />
FUNimation Japanese-Language-Track Subtitle Example</em></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><em><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-491" title="freeza_viz" src="http://www.vegettoex.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/freeza_viz.jpg" alt="freeza_viz" /><br />
Viz Manga Translation Example</em></p>
<p><strong>(6) Lack of any Japanese precedent<br />
</strong>It goes without saying that no Japanese product had ever spelled the name with an &#8220;i&#8221; leading up to FUNimation&#8217;s release. When written with our alphabet, the spelling of &#8220;Freeza&#8221; was always and consistently used.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-523" title="freeza_jp_sbc" src="http://www.vegettoex.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/freeza_jp_sbc.jpg" alt="freeza_jp_sbc" /><br />
<em>Japanese &#8220;Super Battle Collection&#8221; figure; image courtesy of dragonballtoys.com</em></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-494" title="freeza_daizenshuu2" src="http://www.vegettoex.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/freeza_daizenshuu2.jpg" alt="freeza_daizenshuu2" /><em><br />
SOURCE: Daizenshuu 4, &#8220;WORLD GUIDE&#8221;</em></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-495" title="freeza_landmark" src="http://www.vegettoex.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/freeza_landmark.jpg" alt="freeza_landmark" /><br />
<em>SOURCE: &#8220;LANDMARK&#8221;</em></p>
<p><strong>(7) Infestation of later Japanese products<br />
</strong>It was painful to see websites for then-upcoming Japanese games, and even the final releases of games such as <strong>Battle Stadium D.O.N.</strong> and <strong>Jump Ultimate Stars</strong>, using the &#8220;i&#8221;-spelling. Since it was not consistently used before and even after, it appeared to be cases of the Japanese developers referencing official English products and not realizing the lack of accuracy.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-461" title="freeza_bsdon" src="http://www.vegettoex.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/freeza_bsdon.jpg" alt="freeza_bsdon" /><br />
<em>Battle Stadium D.O.N. (PS2/Gamecube), unreleased in North America<br />
</em></p>
<p>You may try to make the argument that since a direct romanization of the name would be <em>fur</em><em>îz</em><em>a</em>, which <strong>does</strong> use an &#8220;i&#8221; due to using our alphabet, that there should not be any problem with using an &#8220;i&#8221; in an English adaptation/spelling of the name. Unfortunately for those making that argument, your logic is horribly flawed. A romanization is not necessarily the same as a name adaptation. We may spell &#8220;Kuririn&#8221; as such, but that is because the romanization aspects of it work perfectly fine in conjunction with the intended name pun (<em>kuri</em> meaning &#8220;chestnut&#8221;, a play on his head and shape). We spell the name as &#8220;Cell&#8221; because <em>seru</em> simply does not make any sense when trying to adapt the name into our alphabet, especially considering that the pun is based around the fact that he uses cells from other characters.</p>
<p>&#8220;Kuriza&#8221; is an interesting example. At <strong>Daizenshuu EX</strong>, we have decided upon a spelling with an &#8220;i&#8221; it in (rather than &#8220;Kreeza&#8221;), but this has nothing to do with FUNimation&#8217;s name spelling, and everything to do with preserving the same type of <em>kuri</em> pun as used in &#8220;Kuririn&#8221;. Toriyama abandoned the &#8220;cold&#8221; pun scheme for the character, and therefore we did the same with our spelling adaptation.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><em><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-507" title="freeza_kuriza" src="http://www.vegettoex.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/freeza_kuriza.jpg" alt="freeza_kuriza" /><br />
</em></p>
<p>&#8220;Frieza&#8221; seems like a completely arbitrary spelling change, contrary to all common sense, for completely inexplicable reasons. Did someone think it made the name look cooler (pun completely intended)? I simply cannot think of a single reason why it could or would be changed.</p>
<p>At the end of the day, this is nothing more than endless whining by another purist, and if you read this far you will fall into one of two camps: <strong>(1)</strong> you loathe me more than you already did, or <strong>(2)</strong> you&#8217;re shaking your head in recognition that I am just preaching to the choir. I realize this. I truly do. I will change nothing. &#8220;Frieza&#8221; will always haunt me, just as horribly as misappropriated apostrophes in non-possessive words do on a daily basis. At least now I can endlessly annoy someone with a link to a single resource when they ask me why the spelling bothers me so.</p>
<p>Remember, kids: &#8220;i&#8221; before &#8220;e&#8221;&#8230; except in &#8220;Freeza&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>Pojo Blatantly Steals Daizenshuu EX Article</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 14:16:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>VegettoEX</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I live in the real world. Let&#8217;s all be honest, here &#8212; the web exists as it does today because people lift content from each other. News aggregators, forums, social networking&#8230; today&#8217;s Internet is a fuster cluck of occasionally-attributed content reposted and repurposed. For the most part, I subscribe to the Techdirt view on content [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in the real world. Let&#8217;s all be honest, here &#8212; the web exists as it does today because people lift content from each other. News aggregators, forums, social networking&#8230; today&#8217;s Internet is a fuster cluck of occasionally-attributed content reposted and repurposed. For the most part, I subscribe to the <strong>Techdirt</strong> view on content &#8220;borrowing&#8221; &#8212; if my content is good and you take it, more people are experiencing/reading/hearing my content, and that can only mean good things for me. It can mean one of two things for <em>you </em>(&#8220;you&#8221; being the &#8220;borrower&#8221;), though: <strong>(1) </strong>you become viewed as a valuable source of content filtering and presentation, or <strong>(2)</strong> you look incredibly stupid.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s share an example of #2, shall we?</p>
<p>I received an e-mail this morning from someone named <strong>Brad</strong>, apparently one of our visitors over at <a href="http://www.daizex.com" target="_blank"><strong>Daizenshuu EX</strong></a>, with the subject header &#8220;Pojo ripped your Dragon Box article.&#8221; Assuming that <strong>Pojo</strong> was still an incomplete and haphazardly-run shell of a website made in 1999, I was pretty intrigued by <a href="http://www.pojo.com/dragonball/news/2005/10-20-09.shtml" target="_blank"><strong>what I was about to see</strong></a>.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-437" title="pojo_article_steal_1" src="http://www.vegettoex.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/pojo_article_steal_1.gif" alt="pojo_article_steal_1" /></p>
<p>Look familiar to you? <a href="http://www.daizex.com/general/feature/" target="_blank"><strong>It should</strong></a>&#8230; minus the broken images and removed-introduction, of course.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-438" title="pojo_article_steal_2" src="http://www.vegettoex.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/pojo_article_steal_2.gif" alt="pojo_article_steal_2" /></p>
<p>That&#8217;s pretty astonishing to me. I can totally understand the viewpoint of some punk kid taking an article from another website and posting it up on his own, especially one so uneducated as to not hot-link the images. What takes it to a new level is the deliberate action(s) taken with it. The introductory paragraph about it being both a history lesson and emotional-roller-coaster is entirely removed, presumably because it mentions us by name as <em>Daizenshuu EX</em> right in the text. If the broken images weren&#8217;t a hint to the carelessness, though, this should take the cake:</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-439" title="pojo_article_steal_3" src="http://www.vegettoex.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/pojo_article_steal_3.gif" alt="pojo_article_steal_3" /></p>
<p>Seriously?</p>
<p>I have no idea who &#8220;<strong>ptrunks19</strong>&#8221; is, but I think he&#8217;s a pretty hilarious guy (or girl; let&#8217;s be an equal-opportunity laugher, here). The entire thing is so asininely careless that you can&#8217;t help but roll over in a fit of hysterics. What clinches it is <a href="http://www.pojo.com/dragonball/" target="_blank"><strong>the main page update</strong></a>, which (in addition to the &#8220;article&#8221; page itself), directly attributes the writing with a by-line to &#8220;ptrunks19&#8243;:</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-440" title="pojo_article_steal_4" src="http://www.vegettoex.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/pojo_article_steal_4.gif" alt="pojo_article_steal_4" /></p>
<p>Who the Hell is running this site? Do they have any idea what they&#8217;re doing? Does anyone actually <em>visit</em> this site for this type of content&#8230;?</p>
<p>At the end of the day, I think we all know that there are really <a href="http://www.daizex.com" target="_blank"><strong>only</strong></a> <a href="http://www.kanzentai.com" target="_blank"><strong>two</strong></a> English-language <em>DragonBall</em> websites you need to bother with, and that&#8217;s a pretty good feeling.</p>
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		<title>YouTube Comment Hilarity: Vegeta&#8217;s Eyes Are Burns</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 19:12:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Don&#8217;t you hate it when you think you&#8217;re so darn clever and hilarious that you just have to share it? And it&#8217;s not actually that funny to anyone but yourself? This is one of those moments. Forgive me. So a while back, I captured a commercial for DragonBall GT eyedrops off of a raw VHS [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t you hate it when you think you&#8217;re so darn clever and hilarious that you just have to share it? And it&#8217;s not actually that funny to anyone but yourself? This is one of those moments. Forgive me.</p>
<p>So a while back, I captured a commercial for <em>DragonBall GT</em> eyedrops off of a raw VHS tape from many years back (&#8220;many years back&#8221; being&#8230; ya&#8217; know&#8230; 1997). I threw it up <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOfFlEZa2uk" target="_blank"><strong>on YouTube</strong></a>, of course.</p>
<p><object classid="clsid:d27cdb6e-ae6d-11cf-96b8-444553540000" width="425" height="344" codebase="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=6,0,40,0"><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true" /><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always" /><param name="src" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/EOfFlEZa2uk&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1&amp;" /><param name="allowfullscreen" value="true" /><embed type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="425" height="344" src="http://www.youtube.com/v/EOfFlEZa2uk&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1&amp;" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true"></embed></object></p>
<p>I lost it when I read this comment:</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-433" title="youtube_vegeta_comment" src="http://www.vegettoex.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/youtube_vegeta_comment.gif" alt="youtube_vegeta_comment" /></p>
<p>I couldn&#8217;t help myself. A couple seconds in Photoshop resulted in:</p>
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		<title>Lesson of the Day: &#8220;Brick&#8221; is NOT an Insult</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 23:19:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Daizenshuu EX has been around in some capacity (whether it was named that or not!) since January 1998. Yeah, in internet years, we&#8217;ve been around for eons. Once it began to receive any kind of traffic and notoriety, you can reasonably assume that we started to receive the kind of both loyalist- and oppositional-styled comments [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.daizex.com" target="_self"><strong>Daizenshuu EX</strong></a> has been around in some capacity (whether it was named that or not!) since January 1998. Yeah, in internet years, we&#8217;ve been around <em>for eons</em>. Once it began to receive any kind of traffic and notoriety, you can reasonably assume that we started to receive the kind of both loyalist- and oppositional-styled comments that anything with any type of popularity receives. And we did. I actually very vividly remember someone back in 1998 claiming that we &#8220;stole&#8221; all of their <strong>DragonBall GT: Final Bout</strong> sound samples for our site. There was no basis for that accusation, of course, but it was a telling sign of things to come.</p>
<p>Fast forward to 2009. The site is eleven years old, and even the podcast is coming up on its fourth anniversary. The types of and volume of comments we have received over the years remains astonishing to me. No matter how much I see, though, I am continuously flabbergasted by some of the complaints people seemingly pull out of thin air.</p>
<p><a href="http://forums.toonzone.net/showpost.php?p=3382854&amp;postcount=67" target="_blank"><strong>One particular commenter</strong></a> on an outside forum took issue with our reference to FUNimation&#8217;s <strong>DragonBall Z</strong> season box sets released from February 2007 to May 2009 (you know, the faux-&#8221;remastered&#8221; box sets) as &#8220;orange bricks&#8221;.</p>
<p>Thankfully, our buddy Jacob put in his two-cents on the matter, but&#8230; seriously?</p>
<p>It was another clear example of someone <em>wrongfully assuming</em> something about us based on their own, personal, complete misunderstanding. Who knows? Maybe they purchased all of the season sets and somehow feel wronged by the upcoming Dragon Box sets. Maybe our reiterations, with each subsequent release, of the boxsets&#8217; problems somehow made them feel &#8220;stupid&#8221; for falling into the trap. Perhaps they take issue with our dislike and overall-non-discussion of FUNimation&#8217;s English dub, and decided to aim their frustration at another topic. For whatever reason, this individual decided that we were using &#8220;orange brick&#8221; pejoratively, it was &#8220;asinine&#8221;, and it was an &#8220;insult&#8221;.</p>
<p>News flash, internet: that style of DVD packaging is referred to as a &#8220;brick&#8221;. Also, the sets happen to be orange. &#8220;Orange Bricks&#8221;. Genius, isn&#8217;t it?</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-420" title="orange_brick_open" src="http://www.vegettoex.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/orange_brick_open.jpg" alt="orange_brick_open" /></p>
<p>See how the inside packaging stacks the discs on top of each other? See how the packaging folds over top itself for easy storage? When you stack things over top of each other and place them all next to each other, you can pretty easily see where the &#8220;brick&#8221; description came from. We don&#8217;t call &#8220;steelbooks&#8221; as such because they are super strong and read great literature to us; we call them that because they open up (like a book) and are metal-styled containers (like steel). Welcome to the world of <a href="http://www.mania.com/aodvb/showthread.php?t=85936" target="_blank"><strong>various styles of DVD packaging</strong></a>.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-421" title="orange_bricks_shelved" src="http://www.vegettoex.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/orange_bricks_shelved.jpg" alt="orange_bricks_shelved" /><br />
<em>(image courtesy of Metalwario64)</em></p>
<p>It&#8217;s cases like this where I wonder what the <em>actual</em> issue is. The person decided to harp on us for <em>something</em>, and rather than a legitimate reason, they made one up. Sure, it may have been legitimate in their own head for a short period of time, but I can&#8217;t imagine hearing the phrase &#8220;orange brick&#8221; is what first made them run furiously to their keyboard to type up a mean post about the poopie-head website they disliked.</p>
<p>Funny how no-one has a problem with the phrase &#8220;blue brick&#8221; in reference to the new <strong>DragonBall</strong> TV series &#8220;season&#8221; sets. If anything, it proves that FUNimation <em>once again</em> made a fanbase-fracturing decision to go with that format (cropped, DVNRed to death, etc.) for <strong>Z</strong>, and even legitimate descriptions of their products cause undue shenanigans across the internet.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-422" title="bricks" src="http://www.vegettoex.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/bricks.jpg" alt="bricks" /></p>
<p>We can&#8217;t please everyone. We know that. That&#8217;s the real issue that I&#8217;m writing about, I guess&#8230; if you have a problem, <em>say what it is</em>. Don&#8217;t hide behind some newly-made-up argument. Come out and say what&#8217;s on your mind, back it up, and be a man (or woman!) about it.</p>
<p>Preferably, above all else, actually know what you&#8217;re talking about before you criticize someone.</p>
<p>I almost make it out to be that there are thousands of people running around the internet shit-talking <strong>Daizenshuu EX</strong>, which I hardly doubt is the case. All the nice little e-mails and comments we get are fantastic, but they just don&#8217;t give me anything to write about! <img src='http://www.vegettoex.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>And yes, I just wrote a blog entry legitimately using the phrase &#8220;poopie-head&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>More DBZ Fan Entitlement Issues</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 19:30:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>VegettoEX</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just threw out a quick tweet about this, but I wanted to share a little more detail about the situation. Since about July 12th, we have known that the upcoming PS3/360 game DragonBall: Raging Blast will have a new vocal theme song performed by Hironobu Kageyama called &#8220;Progression&#8220;. Listings for a CD single of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just threw out <a href="http://twitter.com/VegettoEX/status/4476703798" target="_blank"><strong>a quick tweet</strong></a> about this, but I wanted to share a little more detail about the situation.</p>
<p>Since about <strong>July 12th</strong>, we have known that the upcoming PS3/360 game <strong>DragonBall: Raging Blast</strong> will have a new vocal theme song performed by Hironobu Kageyama called &#8220;<em>Progression</em>&#8220;. Listings for a CD single of the song only began appearing online on <strong>September 27th</strong>. The game is not due out until <strong>November 10th</strong> (North America) / <strong>November 12th</strong> (Japan). The CD single is not due out until <strong>November 25th</strong>.</p>
<p>Here is just a taste of some of the most recent search engine referrals over on <a href="http://www.daizex.com" target="_blank"><strong>Daizenshuu EX</strong></a>:</p>
<ul>
<li>raging blast theme mp3</li>
<li>dragon ball raging blast progression</li>
<li>dragon ball raging blast op song download</li>
<li>hironobu kageyama progression download</li>
<li>progression raging blast</li>
<li>progression kageyama hironobu mp3</li>
</ul>
<p>To be fair, not all of the above-listed searches were specifically for an illegal download of the song. Also to be fair, the song has been featured in a limited capacity in <a href="http://www.gametrailers.com/game/dragon-ball-raging-blast/11339" target="_blank"><strong>trailers</strong></a> for the game; in fact, I was able to sample out a very short version of it to use as the closing for a recent podcast episode.</p>
<p>But seriously? We are <em>months</em> out from the game&#8217;s release and the song&#8217;s physical release. These people really think they are going to find a download of it? And with <em>those</em> kinds of terrible search queries&#8230;?!</p>
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		<title>Shocking Realization About DBZ Questions We Get Asked</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 12:59:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>VegettoEX</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I feel incredibly stupid. It just dawned on me. We get tons of questions from people asking something along the lines of, &#8220;What was said in the Japanese version where/when [insert event here]&#8230;?&#8221; Sometimes they will phrase it just like that, but other times it will be preceded by, &#8220;I was watching my orange bricks&#8230;&#8221; [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel incredibly stupid. It just dawned on me.</p>
<p>We get tons of questions from people asking something along the lines of, &#8220;<em>What was said in the Japanese version where/when [insert event here]&#8230;</em>?&#8221; Sometimes they will phrase it just like that, but other times it will be preceded by, &#8220;<em>I was watching my orange bricks&#8230;</em>&#8221; or &#8220;<em>I was watching my DVDs&#8230;</em>&#8220;. I joked about it on the <a href="http://www.daizex.com/general/podcast/" target="_blank"><strong>podcast</strong></a> recently, but the person could have saved themselves a week&#8217;s worth of time by simply switching over to the Japanese audio track on their DVD and finding out for themselves. I mean, it&#8217;s right there. It&#8217;s subtitled. It&#8217;s accurate.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s when I realized something.</p>
<p>These people are lying to us. They don&#8217;t own the DVDs. They&#8217;re watching the episodes online. They <strong>say</strong> they&#8217;re watching the &#8220;orange bricks&#8221; or &#8220;DVDs&#8221;, but what they <strong>really</strong> mean is that they&#8217;re watching someone&#8217;s <strong>encodes</strong> of those episodes online (usually on YouTube), and they&#8217;re dub-only, of course.</p>
<p>I like to think that we&#8217;re past the point of fans not even realizing that the Japanese track is on the discs, so this is my only logical conclusion.</p>
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		<title>DB Manga Review Bonus: #17&#8242;s Dialogue</title>
		<link>http://www.vegettoex.com/blog/2009/07/27/db-manga-review-bonus-17s-dialogue/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 01:48:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>VegettoEX</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[In preparation for the &#8220;Manga Review of Awesomeness&#8221; on the next podcast episode over at Daizenshuu EX, I&#8217;ve been working like crazy on my notes. One of the things I&#8217;m going to bring up works well with a little image comparison, so I figured I&#8217;d share. In Viz&#8217;s English translation of the DragonBall manga, this [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In preparation for the &#8220;<strong>Manga Review of Awesomeness</strong>&#8221; on the next podcast episode over at <a href="http://www.daizex.com" target="_blank"><strong>Daizenshuu EX</strong></a>, I&#8217;ve been working like crazy on my notes. One of the things I&#8217;m going to bring up works well with a little image comparison, so I figured I&#8217;d share.</p>
<p>In Viz&#8217;s English translation of the <em>DragonBall</em> manga, this is one of #17&#8242;s first lines after being awoken/activated by Dr. Gero:</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-358" title="17_dialogue_viz" src="http://www.vegettoex.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/17_dialogue_viz.jpg" alt="17_dialogue_viz" /></p>
<p>&#8220;<em>Good morning, Dr. Gero&#8230;</em>&#8220;. It&#8217;s a pretty straight-forward, more-or-less accurate translation of the original dialogue. Here&#8217;s how it is written in the original Japanese version:</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-359" title="17_dialogue_jp" src="http://www.vegettoex.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/17_dialogue_jp.jpg" alt="17_dialogue_jp" /></p>
<p>Like I said, it&#8217;s a pretty accurate translation. What #17 says is, &#8220;<em>ohayo gozaimasu, dokutaa gero-sama</em>&#8220;. There&#8217;s one little thing that&#8217;s &#8220;missing&#8221; in Viz&#8217;s &#8220;translation&#8221;, though, as accurate as it is: it&#8217;s that &#8220;<em>-sama</em>&#8221; suffix. It&#8217;s not really necessary to translate, but it comes into play a little more than you might think. While you can clearly imply that #17 is being overly-polite (to the point of it being a ruse), it&#8217;s really driven home by the fact that he actually uses the &#8220;<em>-sama</em>&#8221; suffix&#8230; which he would <em>never</em> otherwise use for this jerk-face of a doctor that forced him back asleep. It&#8217;s that one specific formality that leads Dr. Gero to initially trust him (and also #18).</p>
<p>In the end, it&#8217;s not a <em>huge</em> lost-in-translation issue, but it&#8217;s certainly an interesting one, none-the-less.</p>
<p>Like this kind of stuff? Hell, you&#8217;re probably already checking out our weekly podcast about that there Japanese cartoon from the 80s/90s about monkey aliens hitting each other after staring at each other for an episode. At least it&#8217;s good fun, huh?</p>
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		<title>Proud To Be Downloading: The Financial Conundrum For FUNimation and the DragonBall Franchise</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 16:15:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>VegettoEX</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;m not here to attempt to sway your thoughts any which way on whether it&#8217;s OK to download licensed stuff. We all have our own well-formed opinions by this point, and whether or not they have the basis in any sort of professional experience or simply life experience, they can be hard to change once [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not here to attempt to sway your thoughts any which way on whether it&#8217;s OK to download licensed stuff. We all have our own well-formed opinions by this point, and whether or not they have the basis in any sort of professional experience or simply life experience, they can be hard to change once we get set in our ways. Instead, I&#8217;d like to share just a small dose of what kind of sentiments are out there, and what &#8220;the man&#8221; needs to do (has to do? should do? maybe should consider doing?) if they want to cement that sticky audience that will stand by their side, support their products, and make sure they actually <em>have a business model</em> going forward.</p>
<p>I suppose it&#8217;s kinda funny that the example I&#8217;m going with is the <em>DragonBall</em> franchise, and specifically that in North America as distributed by FUNimation.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s ignore any and all thoughts I have about FUNimation as a company from <a href="http://www.daizex.com" target="_blank"><strong>my fan perspective</strong></a>. That is entirely irrelevant to this discussion. This is a business conversation, a new media conversation, and a marketing conversation&#8230; all things I have knowledge of and expertise in completely independent of my hobby/fandom.</p>
<p>I ran a quick search on <strong>Twitter</strong> this morning for &#8220;dbz&#8221; just to see what was out there. In addition to the pain of seeing such a huge audience and struggling with getting our site and podcast into their consciousness (insert Cartman &#8220;<em>HOW do I REACH these KIDS&#8230;?!</em>&#8221; quote here), I could clearly see the business side being discussed&#8230; without these kids even knowing they&#8217;re talking a little inside baseball. Here are just a few examples of what I saw:</p>
<blockquote><p><a href="http://twitter.com/Ryan_Toro_69/statuses/1915924250" target="_blank"><strong>@Ryan_Toro_69</strong></a> DBZ season nine. Thirty bucks. 39 episodes. Final season&#8230;..WAT DO I DO?!?</p>
<p><a href="http://twitter.com/FHD210/statuses/1914200897" target="_blank"><strong>@FHD210</strong></a> Downloading Dragonball. Never saw that one, only DBZ and GT. And Cities of the Underworld: fascinating documentaries</p>
<p><a href="http://twitter.com/OnslaughtSix/statuses/1913462148" target="_blank"><strong>@OnslaughtSix</strong></a> I am now awake! Dragonball finished, which is an amazing feat after how long I&#8217;ve been trying to download it. On to DBZ!</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://twitter.com/iEgg/statuses/1907064256" target="_blank">@iEgg</a></strong> Just got a sudden urge to watch the Android Saga in DBZ&#8230; &lt;3 DBZ! LOL! Anyone know where I can watch it online free?</p></blockquote>
<p>While it may be a small sample size that does not statistically speak of the entire population, I felt from a quick looksie-through that it was representative enough for the purposes of this discussion. Note how only one of the four was considering <em>paying</em> for the privilege of watching the series. The sense of entitlement is overwhelming, and is completely accurate to the overall aura you get browsing around the internet.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not to say that FUNimation isn&#8217;t catering to those people. With announcements like <a href="http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/press-release/2009-05-14/funimation-entertainment-toei-animation-shueisha-and-fuji-television-announce-online-simulcast-of-one-piece" target="_blank"><strong>the recent agreement with Toei Animation</strong></a> to stream new episodes of <em>One Piece</em> for free, and near-simultaneous with their Japanese broadcast (subtitled in English)&#8230; FUNimation has certainly been a leader in this field, and is throwing their weight around as one of the few remaining domestic anime juggernauts (which essentially equates to them and Viz) to get the times a-changin&#8217;.</p>
<p>FUNimation is certainly offering up a decent chunk of anime for free viewing via locations like <a href="http://www.youtube.com/funimation" target="_blank"><strong>their YouTube channel</strong></a>, but I&#8217;d argue that the <em>DragonBall</em> franchise is one series that they are not taking seriously. Perhaps CEO Gen Fukunaga&#8217;s age-old quote about making so much &#8220;Poke-money&#8221; off the series remains true, and they don&#8217;t need to address it. Perhaps Toei&#8217;s involvement makes it impossible to explore every avenue that needs exploration. Regardless, if the above Twitter quotes are any indication, fans <em>want</em> to watch the series, they want to watch it <em>now</em>, and if FUNimation isn&#8217;t there to provide this service, then the pirating will continue.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not naive. I may not have any desire to get into the scene and find it thoroughly disgusting from top to bottom, but I know what&#8217;s out there. I know how many groups are subbing <em>DragonBall Kai</em>. I know that groups have taken <em>Dragon Box</em> masters and have released dual-audio MKVs with the original Japanese track and FUNimation&#8217;s English dub. I know about the custom subbing projects on the invite-only torrent trackers. Again, if FUNimation isn&#8217;t going to step in&#8230; the fans are going to take control of the property. It&#8217;s already near that point, and there will come a concrete point in time when FUNimation won&#8217;t be able to regain control.</p>
<p>At the end of the day, I have one main suggestion for FUNimation: give your fans more incentive to support you. <a href="http://twitter.com/funimation" target="_blank"><strong>Your Twitter account</strong></a> is a great start, but the responses I see are half-hearted pandering and senseless corporate-talk. Look at companies like <a href="http://twitter.com/unitedairlines" target="_blank"><strong>United Airlines</strong></a> &#8212; they have even created their own (albeit silly) new phrase, &#8220;Twares&#8221; (think of them as something like &#8220;discount fares distributed via Twitter&#8221;), to provide an amazing incentive for that &#8220;sticky audience&#8221; to&#8230; well&#8230; <em>stick around</em>.</p>
<p>FUNimation is losing as much control over the <em>DragonBall</em> franchise as they are making money off the DBZ season boxsets. Their 15-year-old licensing nightmare with KidMark (now Lionsgate) is destroying their ability to capitalize on people wanting to go back and explore the rest of the series. Their lack of online, streaming episodes is driving people to go to inordinate lengths to sack away terabytes of digital pack-rat-ery.</p>
<p>We all know that the domestic anime industry needs an overhaul, and one that might not come in time to save it. I may be incredibly biased in my perception, but it seems to me like <em>DragonBall</em> goes above and beyond the &#8220;anime industry&#8221; and is simply a cartoon that people remember watching as kids, and want to re-experience. As much as the fandom side of me finds incredibly disgust with the DBZ season boxsets, they were exactly what the doctor ordered on the brick-and-mortar side. Unfortunately for FUNimation, brick-and-mortar grows increasingly irrelevant with each passing day.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d love to help ya&#8217;. Hit me up at <a href="http://twitter.com/vegettoex" target="_blank"><strong>@vegettoex</strong></a>. I&#8217;ll probably end up making baseless and impossible demands like re-calling all currently-existing DVD sets and replacing them with <em>Dragon Box</em> masters in an equally-appropriate price-per-episode ratio that the old sets used, not to mention hiring our own community to localize future English dub and video game scripts just so we can stop some of the information nightmare nonsense we live with every day&#8230; but hey&#8230; that&#8217;s a hardcore fan for ya&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>Across The Net: Daizenshuu EX Feedback</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 19:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>VegettoEX</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Over in my Twitter feed I occasionally share some of the more hilarious or enthralling comments I&#8217;ve seen about our podcast (and even just Daizenshuu EX as a site in general). I figured I would throw a few together in one place for easy reference. With no real qualifying description on where the hate comes [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Over in my Twitter feed I occasionally share some of the more hilarious or enthralling comments I&#8217;ve seen about our podcast (and even just <a href="http://www.daizex.com" target="_blank"><strong>Daizenshuu EX</strong></a> as a site in general). I figured I would throw a few together in one place for easy reference.</p>
<p>With no real qualifying description on where the hate comes from, and yet being <a href="http://db.schuby.org/daizex/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=2465" target="_blank"><strong>a member of our forum</strong></a> for over a year at that point, <strong>Adam / JAPPO <a href="http://dbthemovie.com/2008/03/22/podcast1/" target="_blank">wrote</a></strong> on 23 March 2008:</p>
<blockquote><p>Ummm….. thanks?</p>
<p>(oh and yes I am. I hate daizex, for the record).</p></blockquote>
<p>With a little bit of reasoning behind it (but not doing the <a href="http://www.daizex.com/general/playdia/" target="_blank"><strong>additional reading</strong></a> to show that we <em>do in fact agree with their statement</em>), <strong>ShadowRaditz89 <a href="http://community.funimation.com/tm.aspx?m=116819" target="_blank">wrote</a></strong> on 12 April 2009:</p>
<blockquote><p>I don&#8217;t like Daizex, they are too opinionated and refuse to acknowledge when they are wrong.</p>
<p>&#8230;</p>
<p>Toei Animation officialy lists it as an OVA. Because Daizex disregards this, I don&#8217;t acknowledge them as a reliable source.</p></blockquote>
<p>With some snide-looking eyes, <a href="http://anime.myfavoritegames.com/information/news-announcements/mfg/102550-dragon-ball-z-being-re-edited-re-dubbed-hdtv.html" target="_blank"><strong>Amerowolf wrote</strong></a> on 10 February 2009:</p>
<blockquote><p>Thanks to rachetcomand for the news tip, oh, and Daizex, but you know&#8230;MFG is better than those guys. &gt;_&gt;</p></blockquote>
<p>Under fire from other IGN board members, <strong>pmc64 <a href="http://boards.ign.com/teh_vestibule/b5296/178970803/p3" target="_blank">wrote</a></strong> on 07 April 2009:</p>
<blockquote><p>i don&#8217;t have an account there. I don&#8217;t think anyone there likes the dub anyways. Haven&#8217;t you ever listened to the podcast? they loathe the dub.</p></blockquote>
<p>With their head on straight, <strong>jjgp1112 <a href="http://boards.ign.com/teh_vestibule/b5296/178970803/p3" target="_blank">responded</a></strong>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Mike himself said that Dub fans make up a good amount of the board, and has a strict policy against acting like assholes toward Dub fans and Funi fans like how you do all the time.</p></blockquote>
<p>In yet another example of people thinking what they want to think and hearing what they want to hear, <strong>King <a href="http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?t=224960&amp;page=15" target="_blank">wrote</a></strong> on 09 March 2009:</p>
<blockquote><p>I know Daizex will burst for anything that the japanese will pump out, even though the japanese kind of did the same thing like the U.S did&#8230;BUT IN JAPANESE VERSION.</p></blockquote>
<p>Thankfully, Jacob was around and <em>actually listened to what we said</em> when he <a href="http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?t=224960&amp;page=15" target="_blank"><strong>responded</strong></a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Not really. As the usual panel (plus!) explain in the latest podcast, just because it&#8217;s a Japanese production they won&#8217;t give it a pass. They&#8217;ll give DBE one viewing to be fair, just they did FUNi&#8217;s orange boxes and will Kai, but if the product is displeasing&#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>We smiled a bit when <strong>Brent <a href="http://bethblog.com/index.php/2009/01/30/what-were-listening-to-podcast-edition/" target="_blank">contributed</a></strong> to a post on Bethesda&#8217;s Blog on 30 January 2009:</p>
<blockquote><p>I listened to the MKast podcast while Mortal Kombat vs DC Universe was still in development, and I listen to Daizenshuu Ex’s and Major Nelson’s podcasts every-so-often.</p></blockquote>
<p>We were a little confused when <strong>MDUNNER28</strong> originally <a href="http://mdunner28.blogspot.com/" target="_blank"><strong>wrote this</strong></a> on 30 March 2009, but then they kept talking about our show with each subsequent post, so I suppose they learned to like us&#8230;?</p>
<blockquote><p>Episode 170 of Daizenshuu EX is available. If you can get past the hosts&#8217; goofy elitism, it&#8217;s a pretty good show.</p></blockquote>
<p>Based on this comment (along with a few others) that <strong>vashkey <a href="http://www.movietome.com/users/vashkey/show_blog_entry.php?topic_id=m-100-25650678" target="_blank">made</a></strong> on 11 April 2009, Meri and I did a little aside on Episode #0174 of the podcast to once again re-iterate that just because something&#8217;s Japanese, it doesn&#8217;t mean it gets a free pass, it doesn&#8217;t mean we will automatically like it&#8230; and in fact, by the way&#8230; <em>we aren&#8217;t completely in love with it</em>. Once again, people hear and read what they <em>want </em>to hear and read.</p>
<blockquote><p>It&#8217;s almost ironic though if you keep up with the daizex website. They bash the Funi remaster so much, but they&#8217;ve been praising Kai. I watched the first couple of episodes of the Funi remaster before watching Kai and alot of it is the same when it concerns cropping. In alot of scenes if not all Kai matches up the Funi remaster perfectly. Daizex&#8217;s predisposition is pretty obvious.</p></blockquote>
<p>We were tickled with our description as &#8220;nifty&#8221; when <strong>Seleria <a href="http://scrumptious.animeblogger.net/2007/03/11/famous-mangakas-pay-homage-to-dragon-ball-part-i/" target="_blank">wrote</a></strong> on 11 March 2007:</p>
<blockquote><p>Hinode gave me a link to this nifty site called Daizenshuu EX, where there are scans of Dragon Ball artworks by other famous mangakas.</p></blockquote>
<p>Over on the &#8220;Profile&#8221; page of Rumic World, <strong>Harley <a href="http://comipress.com/backstage/rumicworld/profile.html" target="_blank">wrote</a></strong>:</p>
<blockquote><p>this is a Dragon Ball site I browse through fairly often. I&#8217;m not a huge Dragon Ball fan, but I like to visit well made series-specific sites.</p></blockquote>
<p>On their links page, <strong>Kanzentai <a href="http://www.kanzentai.com/main.php?id=links" target="_blank">wrote</a></strong>:</p>
<blockquote><p>One of the best old school sites and it&#8217;s probably the only one left! This is one of my personal favorites because it has such unique information, and the largest DragonBall music database ever!</p></blockquote>
<p>Hey&#8230; thanks, guys! <img src='http://www.vegettoex.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>All in all, it&#8217;s incredibly interesting to see the types of responses and comments that are out there (and the style in which they are written). Every single last bit of feedback should be taken to heart in <em>some capacity</em>, but when you have been doing this sort of stuff as long as we have been doing it, you start to recognize which ones are legit and constructive, which ones just didn&#8217;t do their homework, and which ones are just not worth your time. There are so many more that I have seen over the last eleven years, and I wish I could have saved more of them. I&#8217;m sure they&#8217;re still out there on the internet somewhere, and I&#8217;ll come across another batch for another blog entry at some point in the future.</p>
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		<title>People Hear What They Want To Hear</title>
		<link>http://www.vegettoex.com/blog/2009/03/16/people-hear-what-they-want-to-hear/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 14:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>VegettoEX</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I came across the following video on YouTube the other day while going through the referrals for website traffic on Daizenshuu EX. The description is basically nothing more than a link to my site, and the title certainly caught my attention (&#8220;TRUE DRAGONBALL FANS WOULD GO SEE DRAGONBALL EVOLUTION&#8221;), so I figured I was in [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I came across <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-5LjQzzPJo" target="_blank"><strong>the following video</strong></a> on <strong>YouTube</strong> the other day while going through the referrals for website traffic on <a title="Daizenshuu EX" href="http://www.daizex.com" target="_blank"><strong>Daizenshuu EX</strong></a>. The description is basically nothing more than a link to my site, and the title certainly caught my attention (&#8220;TRUE DRAGONBALL FANS WOULD GO SEE DRAGONBALL EVOLUTION&#8221;), so I figured I was in for a doozy.</p>
<p><object classid="clsid:d27cdb6e-ae6d-11cf-96b8-444553540000" width="425" height="344" codebase="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=6,0,40,0"><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true" /><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always" /><param name="src" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/g-5LjQzzPJo&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1&amp;rel=0" /><param name="allowfullscreen" value="true" /><embed type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="425" height="344" src="http://www.youtube.com/v/g-5LjQzzPJo&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1&amp;rel=0" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true"></embed></object></p>
<p>While I don&#8217;t think <strong>MadThad0890</strong> <em>quite</em> explained what he was trying to say all that well, I think he&#8217;s fighting the good fight in one respect, and it has absolutely nothing to do with the live-action movie.</p>
<p>Enough with this &#8220;not a true fan&#8221; nonsense.</p>
<p>While I have zero interest in FUNimation&#8217;s English dub of the series, I do not see this upcoming live-action movie as becoming a huge part of my extended fandom, and (insert a whole bunch of other things here), like <strong>MadThad</strong> says, that doesn&#8217;t make me or anyone else &#8220;less&#8221; of a fan. We&#8217;re all on equal ground. We&#8217;re all a bunch of people on the internet getting together and talking about a series that, quite frankly, next to zero of us have had or ever will have any stake in its production or even its further success. We gain nothing from it even existing, beyond perhaps our own continued friendships and camaraderie.</p>
<p>I may have been running my site for well over a decade (including the <a href="http://www.daizex.com/general/podcast/" target="_blank"><strong>podcast</strong></a> portion for over three years), but that does not make me any &#8220;better&#8221; or &#8220;more&#8221; of a fan than FUNimation&#8217;s self-described nine-year-old born every day that pops in an edited, dubbed-only DVD to watch Broli smash up some folks. It certainly makes me a <em>different</em> kind of fan, and I don&#8217;t see myself being able to hold a sustained conversation with said nine-year-old, but I&#8217;d argue that his (or her!) excitement in watching a crappy action scene in one of my least-favorite animated DBZ movies genuinely rivals my own excitement when, say, a new $200 music boxset is announced.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re probably wondering what the title of this post has to do with anything, though. That&#8217;s a great question, so let me explain.</p>
<p>I think <strong>MadThad</strong> is trying to justify his own position by using us as &#8220;evidence&#8221; without actually understanding our &#8220;position&#8221; (if we even <em>have</em> one), and is basically reading and hearing what he <em>wants</em> to read and hear.</p>
<blockquote><p>They don&#8217;t support the movie at all. At all.</p></blockquote>
<p>Now that&#8217;s just not true. Especially when you listen to my review of the &#8220;Junior Novel&#8221; and Julian&#8217;s review of the movie on <a href="http://www.daizex.com/general/podcast/#0168" target="_blank"><strong>Episode #0168 of the podcast</strong></a>, you will hear that while we think of it as an entirely separate entity&#8230; and quite an absurdly ludicrous one, at that&#8230; I wouldn&#8217;t really call that not &#8220;supporting&#8221; the movie &#8220;at all&#8221;. As I&#8217;ve mentioned time and time again, I would <em>love</em> for there to be a live-action DB movie that is done fantastically, respects the source material, takes its own necessary liberties, introduces the franchise to a whole new audience, etc. Unfortunately, it sounds like <strong>Evolution</strong> is not going to be that movie, so while I support it in <em>theory</em>, now that I think about it, maybe <strong>MadThad</strong> actually <em>is</em> correct in saying we don&#8217;t support this movie.</p>
<p>But if I recommend going to see it just for the sake of seeing how much of a spectacular disaster it is, is that considered &#8220;supporting&#8221; it? It sounds like it&#8217;s nowhere near the level of <strong>The Legend of Chun-Li</strong> in its terrible-just-terrible state, with <strong>Evolution</strong> being more along the lines of having fun with how terrible it is.</p>
<p>You know what? Just like in <a href="http://www.vegettoex.com/blog/2008/09/14/podcast-episode-001-time-and-project-management/" target="_blank"><strong>the first podcast episode</strong></a> of <strong>WTF EX</strong> when Jeff and I couldn&#8217;t come to a conclusion after an hour-long discussion, I think the process of writing out this blog entry has thoroughly confused <em>me</em>&#8230; and <em>I&#8217;m<strong> </strong></em>the subject of debate, here!</p>
<p>Long story short, as I&#8217;ve noted over on our message board, I think what the DB web community has always needed, continues to need, and will always need&#8230; is exactly what <em>shônen</em> is all about: we need friendship and understanding in an open forum. I&#8217;ve been around long enough to see every single name in the book thrown around, every half-thought-out argument tossed in as evidence or proof, and thousands of fans come and go. If we&#8217;re going to make it another 25 years, we&#8217;ve gotta stop telling each other who&#8217;s the bigger fan&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230; because if you&#8217;re the one saying that, there&#8217;s a good chance you won&#8217;t be sticking around with us. Don&#8217;t let the door hit you on the way out.</p>
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		<title>&#8220;Daizenshuu EX&#8221; In The Media</title>
		<link>http://www.vegettoex.com/blog/2009/03/08/daizenshuu-ex-in-the-media/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 19:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>VegettoEX</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[OK, so &#8220;media&#8221; is somewhat laughable when you consider the source this is coming out of, but let&#8217;s be honest&#8230; seeing your site mentioned in print, no matter what that print form may be, is a pretty awesome thing. We are cleaning out a few things in the apartment as we get ready to eventually [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, so &#8220;media&#8221; is somewhat laughable when you consider the source this is coming out of, but let&#8217;s be honest&#8230; seeing your site mentioned in print, no matter what that print form may be, is a pretty awesome thing.</p>
<p>We are cleaning out a few things in the apartment as we get ready to eventually move into the new house, and I have been pulling together all of the various magazines I have sitting around. I came across this:</p>
<p><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-236" title="daizex_beckett_01" src="http://www.vegettoex.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/daizex_beckett_01.jpg" alt="daizex_beckett_01" /></p>
<p>Back in March 2001, an issue of <strong>Beckett DragonBall Collector</strong> had a two-page column called &#8220;DBZ Online&#8221;. It was mostly a feature about FUNimation&#8217;s official DBZ website, but the very end of the column had a little box for other (fan-created) websites that fans could visit. Lookie, here! What&#8217;s that second site listed&#8230;?!</p>
<p><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-237" title="daizex_beckett_02" src="http://www.vegettoex.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/daizex_beckett_02.jpg" alt="daizex_beckett_02" /></p>
<p>Again, it&#8217;s laughable when you consider the source and the companion link (&#8220;Da Black Gohan&#8221;? Really? This is where you want to send people?)&#8230; but you can&#8217;t help but smile to see your stuff given some attention somewhere.</p>
<p>These <strong>Beckett</strong> magazines were always of dubious quality, even though a couple halfway-authoritative people signed on to do some translation and writing work. For example, in this particular issue, <strong>Greg Werner</strong> (of The Ultimate DBZ Info Site) wrote articles about <strong>DragonBall GT</strong> (two years before it would be mentioned by FUNimation in the US) and a follow-up translation of the timelines featured in the daizenshuu and <strong>Perfect File</strong> books.</p>
<p>Long story short, it was great to find the magazine again and get a decent scan up online so I won&#8217;t lose it. I wonder if the people on <strong>Wikipedia</strong> working on the DBZ articles will now consider <a href="http://www.daizex.com" target="_blank"><strong>Daizenshuu EX</strong></a> a credible source since it&#8217;s been listed/featured as an authoritative reference in a media source. <em>*insert snarky smirk here*</em></p>
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		<title>Search Referrals Across The World</title>
		<link>http://www.vegettoex.com/blog/2009/02/06/search-referrals-across-the-world/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 15:44:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>VegettoEX</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Following up a little bit on my post about rankings on Google a little bit, I just wanted to share another behind-the-scenes doo-diddy with Daizenshuu EX. I have always touted the site as a &#8220;global fandom&#8221; resource. The Japanese version of the DragonBall series is the sole version that can be (and is) appreciated throughout [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Following up a little bit on <a href="http://www.vegettoex.com/blog/2009/01/23/number-one-rankings-on-google/" target="_self"><strong>my post about rankings on Google</strong></a> a little bit, I just wanted to share another behind-the-scenes doo-diddy with <a href="http://www.daizex.com" target="_blank"><strong>Daizenshuu EX</strong></a>. I have always touted the site as a &#8220;global fandom&#8221; resource. The Japanese version of the <em>DragonBall</em> series is the sole version that can be (and is) appreciated throughout the entire world, and that is our audience. As a testament to that, what I specifically would like to share is a list of the last twenty search engine referrals&#8217; origins by country as I&#8217;m looking at them right now, with 15 of the 20 specifically looking for a variation on either &#8220;daizex&#8221; or &#8220;daizenshuu ex&#8221;:</p>
<ul>
<li>Brazil</li>
<li>Japan</li>
<li>Croatia</li>
<li>United States</li>
<li>Japan</li>
<li>United States</li>
<li>Australia</li>
<li>Italy</li>
<li>Japan</li>
<li>Netherlands</li>
<li>Australia</li>
<li>Germany</li>
<li>Japan</li>
<li>United States</li>
<li>Netherlands</li>
<li>Spain</li>
<li>Denmark</li>
<li>Italy</li>
<li>United States</li>
</ul>
<p>That&#8217;s just beautiful, and I feel like we&#8217;re actually accomplishing something&#8230;! Let&#8217;s get <strong>Daizenshuu EX</strong> as a household name in Uzbekistan, and I think I could call it a day.</p>
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		<title>Number-One Rankings On Google</title>
		<link>http://www.vegettoex.com/blog/2009/01/23/number-one-rankings-on-google/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 20:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>VegettoEX</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I saw in my search engine referrals the phrase &#8220;dragonball fansite&#8221; the other day (for Daizenshuu EX), so I figured I&#8217;d take a look and see where we placed with that. Whoa! Number one&#8230;?! Awesome! Out of curiosity, I tried a bunch of additional search terms/phrases to see which also brought us up as the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw in my search engine referrals the phrase &#8220;dragonball fansite&#8221; the other day (for <a href="http://www.daizex.com" target="_blank"><strong>Daizenshuu EX</strong></a>), so I figured I&#8217;d take a look and see where we placed with that. Whoa! Number one&#8230;?! Awesome! Out of curiosity, I tried a bunch of additional search terms/phrases to see which also brought us up as the first link on Google (at least while searching signed into my own profile; your mileage may vary). Here are a few that I am really proud of:</p>
<ul>
<li>daizenshuu</li>
<li>dragonball fansite</li>
<li>dragon ball fansite</li>
<li>dragon ball podcast</li>
<li>dragonball podcast</li>
<li>dbz podcast</li>
<li>best dbz website</li>
<li>best dragonball website</li>
<li>best dragon ball website</li>
<li>dragonball website</li>
<li>dragon ball website</li>
<li>dbz website</li>
</ul>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if anyone actually <em>uses</em> those types of search phrases, but if they came to mind for <strong>me</strong> to use, perhaps someone else will do the same. There&#8217;s still a long way to go for us to show up for simple searches like &#8220;dragonball&#8221; or &#8220;dbz&#8221;, but hey&#8230; we&#8217;ve gone eleven years and have done this well. What&#8217;s another decade or so? We&#8217;ll out-last everyone and end up on top by default <img src='http://www.vegettoex.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
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		<title>iTunes &#8220;DBZ&#8221; Placement</title>
		<link>http://www.vegettoex.com/blog/2009/01/08/itunes-dbz-placement/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 20:51:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>VegettoEX</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Now that the holidays are pretty much over, I&#8217;m going to try and get at least a little something up here more often than not. Consider this one of those little things! iTunes is a very mysterious entity. We have only a vague, outsider understanding of how things are ranked. That&#8217;s why it is very [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that the holidays are pretty much over, I&#8217;m going to try and get at least a little something up here more often than not. Consider this one of those little things!</p>
<p><strong>iTunes</strong> is a very mysterious entity. We have only a vague, outsider understanding of how things are ranked. That&#8217;s why it is very important to optimize your shows with keywords in their title and descriptions. This is something I absolutely did consider when starting up the podcast for <a href="http://www.daizex.com" target="_blank"><strong>Daizenshuu EX</strong></a>, but the final decisions definitely aren&#8217;t completely working in my favor. That&#8217;s not to say things are &#8220;bad&#8221; or &#8220;not working&#8221;&#8230; let me explain and show you!</p>
<p>When I started the podcast for the site, just like the canned intro says every week, I wanted it to be an extension of the website rather than its own separate entity. Sure, it can stand on its own (so can the website without the podcast), but they tie together and complement each other nicely. That&#8217;s why I decided against calling it something like &#8220;OMG DRAGONBALL DRAGON BALL DBZ PODCAST&#8221;, and simply went with <strong>Daizenshuu EX &#8211; The Podcast</strong>. We have &#8220;DBZ&#8221; in the description of the show (<em>&#8220;DBZ discussions, reviews, and the latest news from&#8230;&#8221;</em>), but&#8230;</p>
<p>Consider when someone comes along and puts those keywords right in their title rather than just the description. There are a couple podcasts to go along with blogs for the upcoming live-action movie, and there&#8217;s something called <strong>Dragon Ball Z Universe! &#8211; The Podcast</strong> (which appears to be by a fan of our own website and podcast, but doesn&#8217;t really seem to be an actual audio podcast, and more like PDFs delivered via RSS every so often). This was all fine and good, since if you&#8217;re searching for &#8220;<em>dbz</em>&#8221; or &#8220;<em>dragon ball</em>&#8221; or &#8220;<em>dragonball</em>&#8220;, anything that came up would be entirely (OK, mostly) relevant.</p>
<p>Now there&#8217;s a &#8220;podcast&#8221; simply called <strong>Abridged</strong>, which as far as I can tell is completely unrelated to the production any of the actual &#8220;Abridged&#8221; series out there, and is just some guy or gal collecting episodes and putting them up for download via an RSS feed (thus the &#8220;podcast&#8221;). This is completely fine; don&#8217;t misunderstand me. However, since the &#8220;Abridged&#8221; phenomenon is getting so huge, even though they don&#8217;t have any of <a href="http://www.youtube.com/teamfourstar" target="_blank"><strong>TeamFourStar</strong></a>&#8216;s <strong>DBZ Abridged</strong> episodes up in the feed yet, simply referencing those entities by name seems to be pumping up their &#8220;relevance&#8221; in searches according to iTunes.</p>
<p>Again, don&#8217;t misunderstand me&#8230; I have no problem with these &#8220;podcasts&#8221; (which isn&#8217;t an entirely accurate term for some of them) getting attention and an audience. That&#8217;s awesome. Far be it from me to tell anyone not to create content and get fans! The problem lies with our own show, being what I consider <strong>the most relevant</strong> for those general search terms (we cover anything and everything <strong>DragonBall</strong>, as you know!), getting pushed out of the most-visible locations!</p>
<p>When you do a search for &#8220;<em>dbz</em>&#8221; in the iTunes store, we used to show up as one of the two podcasts in the mini-section &#8220;Podcast&#8221; bubble at the top. No longer true!</p>
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<p>Now you have to click through to see us.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-80" title="itunes_dbz_02" src="http://www.vegettoex.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/itunes_dbz_02.gif" alt="" /></p>
<p>In a further bout of confusion, we don&#8217;t show up at all for a search of &#8220;<em>dragonball</em>&#8220;, but show up as #43 in the general search for &#8220;<em>dragon ball</em>&#8221; (and still needing to click-through on the &#8220;Podcast&#8221; bubble to find us there).</p>
<p>So let it be known that for ultimate visibility, it certainly helps to have a more generic name! That&#8217;s OK&#8230; in my delusional world, we&#8217;re the best at what we do ^_~. And hey, if YOU dig what we do, spread the word! Tell a friend! That&#8217;s what shonen is all about&#8230; friendship and camaraderie!</p>
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